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Re: PT annual leave entitlement

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As Col says,and remember...
it's the same for full timers as well,what days off you get on a BH weekend is what you get
Us full timers are not guaranteed any BH's off,it's the luck of the draw.

But never noticed that link,this is interesting though,IF i've read it right...
14. The annual Bank, Public and Royal Mail Group Holidays will give part-time employees an equivalent benefit of full-time employees. Part-time employees conditioned to at least four weekly attendance's will be entitled to the same number of days off as full-time employees, and where their attendance is constructed so as to "miss" a particular holiday an equivalent day off should be given as near to the appropriate holiday as possible.
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POSTMAN, must admit buy the sounds your thoughts are on a parrallel to mine

as bigcol said we should be getting recompensed with additional days added to your holidays but in my case I am not, nor ever have been.

I've made contact with someone relatively high up within RM who is going to check it out, first thoughts from them that I was correct but will get the literature to prove.

There is also this site which states about 5.6 weeks leave guaranteed for employees (this may/or may not include the bank holidays) which goes against the 4.5 RM give out so generously.

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RM give 4.5 weeks plus the Bank Holidays, which would probably count as 1.5 weeks. Put another way (based on a 5 days working week), 5.6 weeks is about 28 days and RM give 22.5 plus 8 Bank Holidays - so 30.5 days in total. Am not "defending" RM in any way at all.
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fb1969 wrote:RM give 4.5 weeks plus the Bank Holidays, which would probably count as 1.5 weeks. Put another way (based on a 5 days working week), 5.6 weeks is about 28 days and RM give 22.5 plus 8 Bank Holidays - so 30.5 days in total. Am not "defending" RM in any way at all.

RM are supposed to give 4.5 weeks plus Bank hols, but if you read my posts they are not doing this to any of the part timers in my office and I beleive in numerous offices.

As I said previous I was initially told it was added into your leave and therefore didnt get bank holidays, which I have now found is total B%$**£s
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Yeah I spoke to ACAS help line, they say there must be an agreement with union that is laid down, and that working time regs show the holiday entitlement which is not always the case of 5 .6 weeks. I have emailed John Duncan and Dale Haddon both HR Director and Dep Director neither have had the grace to respond in any way shape or form.

Everybody that I speak to takes leave at the end of a work period into allocated rest days ie Police do 2+2+2 then four off so they would take 6 days to get 10 etc, Calor Gas are on rolling weeks and do the same
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Attached is a copy of what each employee is entitled to, all the nonsense about employees not entitled to a bank holiday because it falls on the day off etc is bo!!ox, the same with part timers who have roaming days (ie no set pattern) they are all entitled to a pro rata amount of days off which should be added to their leave list if they can not be given off as close to the bank holiday date.
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So im contracted to 3 days a week but have a 5 day duty, if i want to take 3 days rm say i have to have all week of, i cant work the other 2 days? Now im told i may take 2 days holiday unpaid even though i still have holidays to use, also i go on holiday in october i booked the week off but now require the saturday... i have been told i cant take it as a holiday? Does any body know why?
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jessie34 wrote:So im contracted to 3 days a week but have a 5 day duty, if i want to take 3 days rm say i have to have all week of, i cant work the other 2 days? Now im told i may take 2 days holiday unpaid even though i still have holidays to use, also i go on holiday in october i booked the week off but now require the saturday... i have been told i cant take it as a holiday? Does any body know why?

If I've read this right...
You are contracted to do 3 days but do 5 days so the other 2 days you work is 'overtime'.
So if you want a week off,you only have to take 3 days off,not 5!
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Re: PT annual leave entitlement

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Yes that is correct but i cant work the other 2 days that week as accordingly i have to take a whole week which i cant afford everytime, also should i not be pro rata on my holidays or do i just get holidays based on contrated hour
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I work four days a week six hours a day (plus overtime) and no one in my office can tell me how much annual
leave I am entitled to, can anyone tell me how much leave am entitled to not including bank holidays. Every time
I bring the subject up at work I get blank looks on both management and union faces.

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Mark Russell wrote:I work four days a week six hours a day (plus overtime) and no one in my office can tell me how much annual
leave I am entitled to, can anyone tell me how much leave am entitled to not including bank holidays. Every time
I bring the subject up at work I get blank looks on both management and union faces.

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you will be entitled to the same as everyone else.

On entry = Four and a half weeks After 15 years = Five weeks 1 day
After 5 years = Four weeks 3.5 days After 20 years = Six weeks

But as you work 4 days a week then your number of days per week will be less - but the number of hours leave remain the same.

That is: in days you'll get 18 days instead of 22/23 that a 5 day person would.

However you'll get 108 hours leave exactly the same as someone doing the same hours over 5 days.
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