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DELIVERY UNDER PRESSURE

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
dvbuk55
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Re: DELIVERY UNDER PRESSURE

Post by dvbuk55 »

fishtank wrote:
celerycelery wrote: We never had anyone visit our office till this year, and now we have manager after manager, planner after planner, directors the lot.
Any union visitors?
Well they may have been but they acted like managers :chuckle :chuckle
celerycelery
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Post by celerycelery »

fishtank wrote:
celerycelery wrote: We never had anyone visit our office till this year, and now we have manager after manager, planner after planner, directors the lot.
Any union visitors?
Area rep regular visitor and regional rep been as well.
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Re: DELIVERY UNDER PRESSURE

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celerycelery wrote:
fishtank wrote:
celerycelery wrote: We never had anyone visit our office till this year, and now we have manager after manager, planner after planner, directors the lot.
Any union visitors?
Area rep regular visitor and regional rep been as well.
So what's their position on the mess your office is in and the bullying that's going on?
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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Post by celerycelery »

The honest answer from managers that are visiting is that it's an indoor problem and if we get out on time everything will be fine. Union says it's both indoor and outdoor. Bullying won't stop till managers involved are moved out.
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Post by ziko »

Just cos a dog turd has mars bar wrapping paper around it doesn't mean its still gonna taste like sh*t.....................

Same old lies just re branded as something else............

Ballot against DSA and put a stop to this farce!
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Re: DELIVERY UNDER PRESSURE

Post by Budfrog »

Bullying managers NEVER change (leopard spots?) the ones that have been moved on have nearly all reoffended.


Delivery problems are both inside and outside, P&L will never work and Georoute needs replacing. Whilst indoor workload can be modelled it needs checking post implementation, outside a return to proper walk testing needs to be done.


Not what RM wants to hear asall this takes resource, time and money.
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Post by tiggle »

NWpostie wrote:My way of dealing with this is not to give a toss, come in work to my time, any threats made will just go in one ear and out the other, I just shrug my shoulders and offer them the opportunity to show me how to "improve my work" also they regularly decline to come out with me on delivery, since I don't care they don't know how to deal with that, nothing intimidates me also if somebody pisses me off I just go into "awkward mode" by working exactly to the rules.

Guess who is getting stressed and its not me :dance

precisely,the reason there's so much bullying at royal mail is because it gets the desired results, i've worked for this firm 17 years and its the way its always been. my advice, grow a pair, work your hours and do the job exactly the way you're meant to.
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Re: DELIVERY UNDER PRESSURE

Post by fishtank »

My advice would be start looking after your colleagues more and yourselves less.

Everyone on here has probably seen bullying going on but how many have shown real courage by getting involved and trying to stop it?
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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Re: DELIVERY UNDER PRESSURE

Post by newtimes »

fishtank wrote:My advice would be start looking after your colleagues more and yourselves less.

Everyone on here has probably seen bullying going on but how many have shown real courage by getting involved and trying to stop it?
The other day I saw a colleague being bullied and I spoke out, the one being bullied shot me down and said they were only having some fun. Sad sad days. :arrrghhh
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The only thing that will stop corporate bullying is when a manager is found responsible by Royal Mail Executive and dismissed without any severance, and his case is posted in the Courier. Perhaps the rest of these m.rons will think before they act. Then again it was supposed to be the end of the universe today, and I suppose there was more chance of that.
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Bullying bosses are bound for the top spot - Aggressive managers impress others with their dominance, new study claims

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newtimes wrote:Bullying bosses are bound for the top spot - Aggressive managers impress others with their dominance, new study claims

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RM is a great example of how Bullying Managers operate in a large organisation:

1. They continually escape any form of redress for their behaviour with it either usually being condoned or ignored totally.

2. Where the victim (either another manager or OPG) does manage to raise a successful case the punishment is more of a token on the part of RM with loss of grade or dismissal being very rare. This is partly doe to process that is not fit for purpose partly due to RM showing a blind eye as Bullying Managers are seen to be 'getting the job done'.

3. There is a very real fear amongst staff that by raising a B&H case they will be seen as a disruptive influence and have their 'cards marked'. I believe this to be true and have seen at first hand how staff perceived in this way are regularly picked upon.
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Post by General Mannerheim »

Raising a B&H case is a waste of time they either downgrade it to `just` a grievance or if they do go through the motions they then come at you with the bad faith bolloxs and try and sack you under the conduct code. :roll:
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Post by Lincox »

Thats exactly what they do General, but don,t let this deter you from taking your grievance all the way. At appeal they have to take things a tad more seriously. If you know you are in the right you cannot let their prejudices deter you from standing your ground.
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Post by music4essex »

Raising a B&H case is a waste of time they either downgrade it to `just` a grievance or if they do go through the motions they then come at you with the bad faith bolloxs and try and sack you under the conduct code.

I am going through this right now, My manager even tried to conduct code my while on sick , but has been rebuffed by Atos,

But I am off with WRS since last saturday due to a trumped up charge of bringing mail back even though earlier in the week a bag had been stolen and the postie was never suspended :arrrghhh but I bring mail back and I am suspended from deliveries.

I also had my B/H downgraded to a grievence but I am still going ahead with it, lost a lot of monies in the last couple of weeks, I am off for 2weeks sick and probably wil be longer

All because I grew a pair and stood up to my manager :wave

Essex mum