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Sunday Hourly Rate

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mahrm1
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Sunday Hourly Rate

Post by mahrm1 »

What is the Sunday hourly rate for christmas casuals?
Verging
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Re: Sunday Hourly Rate

Post by Verging »

Usually no difference to normal daily rate.
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Britvic55
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Re: Sunday Hourly Rate

Post by Britvic55 »

Last year, not that I worked a Sunday (because of what was happening to us) it was £8.05, the same as the previous year. But now that I think about this year, I can't remember being told.
intelligentsia
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Re: Sunday Hourly Rate

Post by intelligentsia »

Verging wrote:Usually no difference to normal daily rate.
Oh, dear what ignorance! :no no
Bear in mind that the permanent RM staff get £11.50/hour and many actually work Sundays for obvious reasons!!!!!
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Re: Sunday Hourly Rate

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intelligentsia wrote:
Verging wrote:Usually no difference to normal daily rate.
Oh, dear what ignorance! :no no
Bear in mind that the permanent RM staff get £11.50/hour and many actually work Sundays for obvious reasons!!!!!
The RM have very strange and odd rules on Sunday working. Some RM staff will get additional pay. some will not. If they go into what they consider "overtime" it gets even more complex where the actual pay you receive can go down instead of up. I have fallen foul of these rules as an Angard casual during the year - it is a very weird way of rewarding staff for working lots of hours. My sunday rate could be considerable less than what you would expect for Sunday dependent upon whether they consider it "normal" working hours, scheduled hours, Sunday hours or "overtime" hours.

If it does not say you get any different pay for Sunday in your paperwork where it talks about your pay - dont expect to get additional pay.

As a Christmas casual it may not increase - if it does it will not be much of an increase.
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jaym
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Re: Sunday Hourly Rate

Post by jaym »

Verging wrote:
intelligentsia wrote:
Verging wrote:Usually no difference to normal daily rate.
Oh, dear what ignorance! :no no
Bear in mind that the permanent RM staff get £11.50/hour and many actually work Sundays for obvious reasons!!!!!
The RM have very strange and odd rules on Sunday working. Some RM staff will get additional pay. some will not. If they go into what they consider "overtime" it gets even more complex where the actual pay you receive can go down instead of up. I have fallen foul of these rules as an Angard casual during the year - it is a very weird way of rewarding staff for working lots of hours. My sunday rate could be considerable less than what you would expect for Sunday dependent upon whether they consider it "normal" working hours, scheduled hours, Sunday hours or "overtime" hours.

If it does not say you get any different pay for Sunday in your paperwork where it talks about your pay - dont expect to get additional pay.
Well said, but if that wasn't already complicated enough from what I can remember as an RM Christmas Casual things got even more complicated if you were on Nights. As I recall despite being officialy on Nights 10 - 6, RM still didn't actualy class all the hours over the shift as Night hours so you only got standard rate for some? I think as well if you did over a certain amount of additional hours in a week you lost part of the allowance in the night rate and the day rate, or possibly all additional hours past a certain point were only payed at standard days rate? I know it was practicly impossible to accuately work out, (especialy when your head is trying to adapt from day time clock to nights on top which doesnt exactly enhance quick whittedness). In the end I just used to have to go for a near enough figure.
intelligentsia
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Re: Sunday Hourly Rate

Post by intelligentsia »

jaym wrote:
Verging wrote:
intelligentsia wrote:
Verging wrote:Usually no difference to normal daily rate.
Oh, dear what ignorance! :no no
Bear in mind that the permanent RM staff get £11.50/hour and many actually work Sundays for obvious reasons!!!!!
The RM have very strange and odd rules on Sunday working. Some RM staff will get additional pay. some will not. If they go into what they consider "overtime" it gets even more complex where the actual pay you receive can go down instead of up. I have fallen foul of these rules as an Angard casual during the year - it is a very weird way of rewarding staff for working lots of hours. My sunday rate could be considerable less than what you would expect for Sunday dependent upon whether they consider it "normal" working hours, scheduled hours, Sunday hours or "overtime" hours.

If it does not say you get any different pay for Sunday in your paperwork where it talks about your pay - dont expect to get additional pay.
Well said, but if that wasn't already complicated enough from what I can remember as an RM Christmas Casual things got even more complicated if you were on Nights. As I recall despite being officialy on Nights 10 - 6, RM still didn't actualy class all the hours over the shift as Night hours so you only got standard rate for some? I think as well if you did over a certain amount of additional hours in a week you lost part of the allowance in the night rate and the day rate, or possibly all additional hours past a certain point were only payed at standard days rate? I know it was practicly impossible to accuately work out, (especialy when your head is trying to adapt from day time clock to nights on top which doesnt exactly enhance quick whittedness). In the end I just used to have to go for a near enough figure.
Sundays are classed as unsocial hours and thereore attract a higher rate of pay!
Christmas casuals in 2011 got £8.45/h as opposed to a day shift rate of £6.35/hour at the Exeter Mail Centre!
What is all the utter nonsense above?????? Lies?
Rafiki
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Re: Sunday Hourly Rate

Post by Rafiki »

It isn't lies. I was told by the receptionist on Thursday evening that I would get time and half if I worked the Saturday night shift, I got there on Friday night and she told us it was a mistake and we would get £7.00 an hour after 00:00 on Sunday, so I came in on Saturday, not really bothered about the increase as it wasn't really an increase by much, but for the extra shifts wages to cover the losses from last week.

So in the mail centre I'm at it's £6.19 or £6.20 per hour and on the Saturday night shift 22:00 - 06:00AM you get paid £6.19 or £6.20 per hour until 00:00 and then get £7.00, the funny thing is that we get a break at 01:00AM so that's a wasted increase already. It's not really worth doing unless you just want the extra wages no matter what the rate is.
intelligentsia
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Re: Sunday Hourly Rate

Post by intelligentsia »

Rafiki wrote:It isn't lies. I was told by the receptionist on Thursday evening that I would get time and half if I worked the Saturday night shift, I got there on Friday night and she told us it was a mistake and we would get £7.00 an hour after 00:00 on Sunday, so I came in on Saturday, not really bothered about the increase as it wasn't really an increase by much, but for the extra shifts wages to cover the losses from last week.

So in the mail centre I'm at it's £6.19 or £6.20 per hour and on the Saturday night shift 22:00 - 06:00AM you get paid £6.19 or £6.20 per hour until 00:00 and then get £7.00, the funny thing is that we get a break at 01:00AM so that's a wasted increase already. It's not really worth doing unless you just want the extra wages no matter what the rate is.
This receptionist is all spin and bovine scat [bullshit]! The pay rates are clearly advertised on the RM recruitment website per age group. Each RM sorting centre will operate slightly different pay rates. £6.19/h is the national minimum wage! Christmas casuals get between £6.35 to £6.45 per hour.

she/he is talking nonsense. :d'oh!
jaym
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Re: Sunday Hourly Rate

Post by jaym »

intelligentsia wrote:
jaym wrote:
Verging wrote:
intelligentsia wrote:
Verging wrote:Usually no difference to normal daily rate.
Oh, dear what ignorance! :no no
Bear in mind that the permanent RM staff get £11.50/hour and many actually work Sundays for obvious reasons!!!!!
The RM have very strange and odd rules on Sunday working. Some RM staff will get additional pay. some will not. If they go into what they consider "overtime" it gets even more complex where the actual pay you receive can go down instead of up. I have fallen foul of these rules as an Angard casual during the year - it is a very weird way of rewarding staff for working lots of hours. My sunday rate could be considerable less than what you would expect for Sunday dependent upon whether they consider it "normal" working hours, scheduled hours, Sunday hours or "overtime" hours.

If it does not say you get any different pay for Sunday in your paperwork where it talks about your pay - dont expect to get additional pay.
Well said, but if that wasn't already complicated enough from what I can remember as an RM Christmas Casual things got even more complicated if you were on Nights. As I recall despite being officialy on Nights 10 - 6, RM still didn't actualy class all the hours over the shift as Night hours so you only got standard rate for some? I think as well if you did over a certain amount of additional hours in a week you lost part of the allowance in the night rate and the day rate, or possibly all additional hours past a certain point were only payed at standard days rate? I know it was practicly impossible to accuately work out, (especialy when your head is trying to adapt from day time clock to nights on top which doesnt exactly enhance quick whittedness). In the end I just used to have to go for a near enough figure.
Sundays are classed as unsocial hours and thereore attract a higher rate of pay!
Christmas casuals in 2011 got £8.45/h as opposed to a day shift rate of £6.35/hour at the Exeter Mail Centre!
What is all the utter nonsense above?????? Lies?
Before you call everyone else a lier have the good grace to check things out a bit further then the standard rates for shifts/ ages leaflet. My point if you could have been bothered to read it, was as far as I remember for casuals I think that Nights pre 12.00 midnight was paid at regular rate, and despite working Sundays not all off it was payed Sunday rate as most of it was on Monday if you were on nights, in fact on Nights if you want more Sunday pay you are best doing the Saturday shift that goes into Sunday...where does it explain that in your standard rates leaflet? I also recall there being in effect caps on various extra rates as another commentator has rightly said that mean once you have exceeded a certain number of additional hours then after that any hours that week are payed standard rate?