Threatening with prep test.

[P13]

Whats wrong with being prep tested, if he is slow it will show up and the manager will have a point.

If he passes then the manager can shove his point up his ....

Nothing to hide nothing to fear. Work to time at a steady pace and bring it back time after time after time

What is wrong is he is being threatened with prep testing because he won't work overtime , whilst other colleagues who are not completing their deliveries in time but are willing to complete them on overtime are not being challenged

[whatamess!!]

This is an ongoing problem which exists in delivery offices, if a postie says he can't prep his duty in allocated time but tools say he can, how do you solve the problem without seeing how the postie is prepping, if the postie is tested and is seen to be working at an acceptable standard, then the tools can say what ever they want, but if nothing is tested how do you tell if the tools are wrong or if the postie is taking the piss, we might not want to admit it , but plenty of posties think prep time means coffee break or fag break, then complain they can't complete their prep, but go for 4 fag breaks, moaning to the rep that the duties to big, causing the rep issues, when all along it's the person attitude. We need some type of standard.

[fng]

Whats wrong with being prep tested, if he is slow it will show up and the manager will have a point.

If he passes then the manager can shove his point up his ....

Nothing to hide nothing to fear. Work to time at a steady pace and bring it back time after time after time

What is wrong is he is being threatened with prep testing because he won't work overtime , whilst other colleagues who are not completing their deliveries in time but are willing to complete them on overtime are not being challenged

SO.....? It does not matter one jott what anyone else in the office does or doesn't do. They can work 24.5 hours a day, have 37 lunch breaks, 105 fag breaks come in early, go home late, get paid, not get paid.... it doesn't matter.

What does matter : is this person able to do all the tasks in hand ( prep etc) in a reasonable time at a reasonable pace within the perameters of their start and finish time.... end of.

The way that this can be proved is by testing. If he is tossing it off it will show up.... if he is able to do all the tasks in hand ( prep etc) in a reasonable time at a reasonable pace within the parameters of their start and finish time, it will show up.

Nothing to hide nothing to fear.

[fng]

Threatening with prep test.

Managers are threatening a colleague with prep testing his walk because he can’t get out in time and can’t complete so he decides to cut off rather than go over, manager says “it’s the postie who is at fault” but he refused to prep test all the other walks that are going over by a hour or two everyday, surely if these walks are going over they have a issue as well, it’s a bullying tactic.
If a guy cuts off and other go over by a hour or two it’s the same thing am I right?

You are right Jenny , your manager is bullying your colleague because he won't work overtime. you should email Bob Gibson at CWU headquarters. The email address is in Fishtank's post

Why is it bullying? NOTHING TO HIDE NOTHING TO FEAR. If we all did the job properly (some do some don't), we should all welcome prep testing to show that the systems and timings they have in place are wrong.

[sdeelutd]

These managers manipulate constantly about the figures so why the hell should they tell you truthfully if you have passed the test or not. They want you to complete your delivery and will not be truthful telling you that you failed the test even if you passed it. THATS HOW THESE PEOPLE OPERATE!

[eastie]

Doms think posties are slow if they dont come in early and take their meal relief.
Cheeky f*ckers have taken our TV out of the restroom hoping we dont take meal relief, how petty is that

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Doms think posties are slow if they dont come in early and take their meal relief.
Cheeky f*ckers have taken our TV out of the restroom hoping we dont take meal relief, how petty is that

I have catchup TV on my mobile so that won't work.

[fishtank]

Why is it bullying? NOTHING TO HIDE NOTHING TO FEAR. If we all did the job properly (some do some don't), we should all welcome prep testing to show that the systems and timings they have in place are wrong.

It's ok saying what's wrong with prep testing but unless you have agreed guidelines to follow and both parties are aware of those boundaries it's just a recipe for disaster for both sides.

What might be called a prep test in Manchester might not be the same thing in London or Edinburgh.
These tests are unagreed and vary from office to office depending on the manager's take on what the test should contain so in my opinion welcoming it's the last thing you should do.

[Jenny Manchester]

In Manchester if yo say you can't finish everyday they prep test you to see if its the Man or the plan and guess what they test you indoors but not out doors and yes it's always the Man that's the fault. The only reason to test you is because you won't go over but they don't test the posties that go over a hour everyday because that's alright, it's a bullying tactic to scare you so you come in early and work part of their break and Keep managers off your back.

[eastie]

In Manchester if yo say you can't finish everyday they prep test you to see if its the Man or the plan and guess what they test you indoors but not out doors and yes it's always the Man that's the fault. The only reason to test you is because you won't go over but they don't test the posties that go over a hour everyday because that's alright, it's a bullying tactic to scare you so you come in early and work part of their break and Keep managers off your back.

This happened to us 6 months ago testing the ones that cut off and leaving the ones that do the extended O/T .
They said they were testing everybody but after a few weeks they stopped after the 1st half a dozen.
The next thing they do is keep watching you on your mealrelief and looking at their watches or watching you throw off your frame .
Once they realize you aren't taking any notice they pick on someone else.

[Orinoko]

If you are ever given a prep test just make sure you do everything by the book and this includes checking the mail for mispreps before you bundle up. Hardly any posties in our office do this even though it's officialy part of prepping a walk so they are all really cutting up the job. It probably adds an extra 15-20 minutes to prep time. I've had 2 managers (and even a union rep)tell me I don't need to do this but then we get told we're making too many misdeliveries which is probably a result of us not doing it. It should be allowed for in the time given to prep a walk but I doubt it is.

[manfromuncle]

The Nationally agreed Prep test is 1 minute into an empty frame and I think I'm correct in saying that the manager can't even check the letters you've thrown in.
If they ask you to do any other form of test that they've thought of, it's invalid and I would refuse tbh.
The national agreement is there to protect you and to some degree, them..

[BingBong]

Threatening with prep test.

Managers are threatening a colleague with prep testing his walk because he can’t get out in time and can’t complete so he decides to cut off rather than go over, manager says “it’s the postie who is at fault” but he refused to prep test all the other walks that are going over by a hour or two everyday, surely if these walks are going over they have a issue as well, it’s a bullying tactic.
If a guy cuts off and other go over by a hour or two it’s the same thing am I right?

They would have to prep test everyone in our office as we all tie up at roughly the same time everyday. Cut off on the same days too...

[BingBong]

Whats wrong with being prep tested, if he is slow it will show up and the manager will have a point.

If he passes then the manager can shove his point up his ....

Nothing to hide nothing to fear. Work to time at a steady pace and bring it back time after time after time

What is wrong is he is being threatened with prep testing because he won't work overtime , whilst other colleagues who are not completing their deliveries in time but are willing to complete them on overtime are not being challenged

Also whenever I cut off and the manager moans I always say im willing to be retrained if they can show me a better/faster way to do it. Manager just walks away.