Wilful Delay/Out of time

[catch22]

dunno, just always worked until all mail was delivered. regardless of time. meaning if it was busy, i would just carry on going and get paid overtime.
maybe being a temp i'll take more ****....

[Lincox]

I think you misunderstood my post Jenny. I was being sarcastic. Basically if you tell them you are cutting off you WILL get bullied/harassed, but if you don,t tell them and you cut off it will be wilful delay and you will be down the job centre.

[harrymortimer]

I think you misunderstood my post Jenny. I was being sarcastic. Basically if you tell them you are cutting off you WILL get bullied/harassed, but if you don,t tell them and you cut off it will be wilful delay and you will be down the job centre.

Very true. If only it was as simple as "Gaffer I've got to finish on my time this is what I'm leaving". More like "What do you mean you're finishing on your time, you mean you can't complete, it's a light day, here are the traffic figures, everyone else is completing, you shouldn't be going over your time today." Repeated for about 15 minutes. With murmurs about performance standards thrown in.

Managers now ALWAYS argue about whether you can cut off, regardless of how heavy or light a day is. It must be in the gaffer rulebook.

[clashcityrocker]

If only it was as simple as "Gaffer I've got to finish on my time this is what I'm leaving". More like "What do you mean you're finishing on your time, you mean you can't complete, it's a light day, here are the traffic figures, everyone else is completing, you shouldn't be going over your time today." Repeated for about 15 minutes. With murmurs about performance standards thrown in.

Managers now ALWAYS argue about whether you can cut off, regardless of how heavy or light a day is. It must be in the gaffer rulebook.

You forgot - and you owe me 30 minutes from 4 Tuesdays ago.

[harrymortimer]

If only it was as simple as "Gaffer I've got to finish on my time this is what I'm leaving". More like "What do you mean you're finishing on your time, you mean you can't complete, it's a light day, here are the traffic figures, everyone else is completing, you shouldn't be going over your time today." Repeated for about 15 minutes. With murmurs about performance standards thrown in.

Managers now ALWAYS argue about whether you can cut off, regardless of how heavy or light a day is. It must be in the gaffer rulebook.

You forgot - and you owe me 30 minutes from 4 Tuesdays ago.

Ha! Yeah that as well. I also forgot to mention the "market scene in Life of Brian" scenario where manager gets his harder gaffer mate involved and tells him"ere this bloke wants to cut off". Hard gaffer mate then comes and looks at your frame, looks cross and shakes his head.

[fng]

If only it was as simple as "Gaffer I've got to finish on my time this is what I'm leaving". More like "What do you mean you're finishing on your time, you mean you can't complete, it's a light day, here are the traffic figures, everyone else is completing, you shouldn't be going over your time today." Repeated for about 15 minutes. With murmurs about performance standards thrown in.

Managers now ALWAYS argue about whether you can cut off, regardless of how heavy or light a day is. It must be in the gaffer rulebook.

You forgot - and you owe me 30 minutes from 4 Tuesdays ago.

Ha! Yeah that as well. I also forgot to mention the "market scene in Life of Brian" scenario where manager gets his harder gaffer mate involved and tells him"ere this bloke wants to cut off". Hard gaffer mate then comes and looks at your frame, looks cross and shakes his head.

None of that matters, people talk too much in awkward uncomfortable situations, when there is no need to .

Once you have decided that you are working to time, the rest is all stuff of nonsence and waffle.

There is no need to argue , arguing implies there is something to argue about. You are working to time ....your right... your choice....end of.

All the "he can do this" and "she can do that" and head shaking is all part of the stuff of nonsence and waffle, it doesn't alter the fact that you are finishing.

Is head shaking going to make you feel bad, doff your cap and back out of the office with your head lowered in shame ? I think not. IT'S THEIR PROBLEM, NOT YOURS, i'm not being bolshy about it, just stating a genuine fact.

[k979aaa]

Never felt bad about cutting off just wished i had done it sooner in the day so as not to go over.

[bigcol]

Very true. If only it was as simple as "Gaffer I've got to finish on my time this is what I'm leaving". More like "What do you mean you're finishing on your time, you mean you can't complete, it's a light day, here are the traffic figures, everyone else is completing, you shouldn't be going over your time today." Repeated for about 15 minutes. With murmurs about performance standards thrown in.

That's 15 minutes that you can't be delivering. Which you might want to point out.

[k979aaa]

As long as you tell them before you leave the office and just do your best their is nothing they can do but give you bullsh!t and if they take that too far put in a grievance agaist them all.

[meercat]

Finally someone has mentioned the crucial matter of informing before you leave office. you MUST tell your LM before you leave that you don't have time to complete delivery. Ask them if they want you to take out only what you can get done OR if they want you to bring back anything undeliverd.

you must deliver everything you agree to take out so don't take too much if you have to finish on time. if you take too little and come back 15 mins early you can do indoors awork till finish time.

The only time you are allowed to bring back mail unagreed or call up out of the blue saying you can't get done is if you have been delayed eg breakdown, accident, sprained ankle etc. all this is agreed with cwu.