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OFFICES WITH A FAILING REVISION:LIST

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dingo wrote:That's strange as it comes before Brighton but has not been in as long.
Dunfermline is number 105 but it's pretty much been a shambles since it went in 18 months ago and they were sending in casuals by the bus load.
Now of course they have overlaid WCM on top of the shambles which makes it a shambles with pretty pictures on the walls.
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East Kilbride is 102 and 108.
Double shambles?
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clashcityrocker wrote:East Kilbride is 102 and 108.
Double shambles?
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dingo wrote:Add Basildon to the list. Royal Mail have now done 650 delivery method revisons plus walk sequencing revisons and business as usual revisons.
Well would it not be more pc to have said "jointly" there have been 650 revisions because you make it sound solely an RM initiative and that's not accurate. So numerically in 2 and 1/2 years there has been less than 50% completed, of which 100 are reportedly failing including Basildon, previously reported, so does that means it's failed twice or it's just taken a while to filter through to the union. Well with 7 months to go on the current agreement there's little chance that all revisions are going to be complete before the agreement runs out. So what's the strategy dingo - carry on regardless?
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dingo wrote:That's strange as it comes before Brighton but has not been in as long.
Probably means they don't necessarily fail immediately but when the staff decide they aren't prepared to run their arses ragged - then they fail.
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dingo wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
dingo wrote:Add Basildon to the list. Royal Mail have now done 650 delivery method revisons plus walk sequencing revisons and business as usual revisons.
Is every office not doing a delivery methods revision - if not, why not and where are they?
Every office is due a delivery method revison but there is only so many planners to the process is taking on average 30 weeks so they are well behind.
That's very strange because they started doing ours today..............and it's to be in by October but then they never said which October :nervous
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We are due to go live end of the month suppose to be now but we have the indoor hours to sort out,

The outdoor element will fail, even though we have said to the dom regarding what we think is not right , but he carries on regardless.

Basildon has had problems for a few months but it has escalated with the usual B/H going on from upper echlons of management

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Got an update on Basildon...
Basildon is currently an utter shambles if there was ever a guide on how not to do a revision then Basildon should be a role model.

Up to last week we were the highest spending office in country in fact it got so bad the No.3 in charge of RM came down to sort things out.

This has resulted in utter chaos everyone has been instructed to take everything out resulting in increasing cut-offs/failures etc.

There are 3 section in Basildon ,Basildon itself and Laindon and Pitsea. Each section was introduced one at a time yet and fixes were put in place for all deliveries affected these fixes were withdrawn at the request of No.3.
All 3 sections were instructed to take their meal reliefs in a staggered fashion each taking 20 mins at SET time.

The local mangement have also been told that if they cant manage then they will be moved on and a new mangement team will be put in place.

The local rep was left out of latest negotiations and area and branch took it upon thenselves to fashion this "resolution " for us without our agreement this also included the re-introduction of one to ones which had never happened this quickly turned into four to threes in an effort to smooth things out as soon as possible which also turned out to be a total wast of time.

Yesterday became a new low in Basildon . A significant increase in traffic saw a remarkbly heavy tuesday which saw the IPS over-run for over an hour and a half . This resulted in arguments over meal reliefs which as i stated earlier are set to a fixed time resulting in staff having to wait between an hour and half to two hours for their meal relief once the IPS had finished.

Obviously this had an adverse reaction affect on prep time resulting in the majority of the office not leaving for their deliveries until well after mid-day. This culminated in one of the largest cut-offs i have ever seen , an estimated 300+ plus bags were cut off resulting in 30 odd managers from all over London arriving at Basildon this morning to clear the cut-offs . Everone of these managers took the mail out in there own private cars and no LWT,HCT was used.

All in all its a complete mess , we are on our knees , everyone is shattered, no-one wants to do overtime and moral is at an all time low yet all we are doing are using the correct delivery methods and working until our time .Unfortunately RM will not acknowledge this, they suggest we are taking liberties and not working hard enough.

I would like to take this oppurtunity to say the good people of Basildon DO cannot work any harder and they have done all they can to make good a botched revision work....unfortunately it never will.
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Post by claretandblue »

POSTMAN wrote:Got an update on Basildon...
Basildon is currently an utter shambles if there was ever a guide on how not to do a revision then Basildon should be a role model.

Up to last week we were the highest spending office in country in fact it got so bad the No.3 in charge of RM came down to sort things out.

This has resulted in utter chaos everyone has been instructed to take everything out resulting in increasing cut-offs/failures etc.

There are 3 section in Basildon ,Basildon itself and Laindon and Pitsea. Each section was introduced one at a time yet and fixes were put in place for all deliveries affected these fixes were withdrawn at the request of No.3.
All 3 sections were instructed to take their meal reliefs in a staggered fashion each taking 20 mins at SET time.

The local mangement have also been told that if they cant manage then they will be moved on and a new mangement team will be put in place.

The local rep was left out of latest negotiations and area and branch took it upon thenselves to fashion this "resolution " for us without our agreement this also included the re-introduction of one to ones which had never happened this quickly turned into four to threes in an effort to smooth things out as soon as possible which also turned out to be a total wast of time.

Yesterday became a new low in Basildon . A significant increase in traffic saw a remarkbly heavy tuesday which saw the IPS over-run for over an hour and a half . This resulted in arguments over meal reliefs which as i stated earlier are set to a fixed time resulting in staff having to wait between an hour and half to two hours for their meal relief once the IPS had finished.

Obviously this had an adverse reaction affect on prep time resulting in the majority of the office not leaving for their deliveries until well after mid-day. This culminated in one of the largest cut-offs i have ever seen , an estimated 300+ plus bags were cut off resulting in 30 odd managers from all over London arriving at Basildon this morning to clear the cut-offs . Everone of these managers took the mail out in there own private cars and no LWT,HCT was used.

All in all its a complete mess , we are on our knees , everyone is shattered, no-one wants to do overtime and moral is at an all time low yet all we are doing are using the correct delivery methods and working until our time .Unfortunately RM will not acknowledge this, they suggest we are taking liberties and not working hard enough.

I would like to take this oppurtunity to say the good people of Basildon DO cannot work any harder and they have done all they can to make good a botched revision work....unfortunately it never will.

sounds like our office, over 80 bags plus yorkies full of packets left yesterday, but apparantly we are not working hard enough. if you tak evr's, buy downs plus removal of SA's we are having to absorb 25% of the work that was done pre revision. impossible !
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Post by dvbuk55 »

It's time the union took the bull by the horns, stopped playing kissy kissy kermit with Moya and sort out BT2010 once and for all. For christs sake get back round the table and put the members point of view first - NOT WHAT AILS RM.
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I would like to take this oppurtunity to say the good people of Basildon DO cannot work any harder and they have done all they can to make good a botched revision work....unfortunately it never will.
We overheard our lino say that it is the good folks of basildon posties who are playing up, the managers just dont learn,

Lets hope he does not make an appearence at your office any time soon, BTW he has the same name as a wel known snooker player,

Can't say as it would identify me.

It does not matter how many revisions don't work because of the software it is always our faults :arrrghhh :no no

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Post by sisyphus »

At least we are all in the same boat , but when are the union going to show their hand ? It wasn't to long ago that industrial action was balloted for over something as irregular as a missing comma in the sub text . :Boo hoo!
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Post by bandit650 »

Just catching up,reading this the good staff of Basildon are playing up!!!!!!!!so what is the excuse for the other 112 offices? is that all down to staff?or could it be that the system that they have bought for a fiver in the back of some dodgy pub a pile of c**p maybe someone who is being payed alot of money should wake up!and pull there head out of their ...........
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West Derby likely to join the list in next few weeks. :crazy: o
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Post by bigcol »

claretandblue wrote:sounds like our office, over 80 bags plus yorkies full of packets left yesterday, but apparantly we are not working hard enough. if you tak evr's, buy downs plus removal of SA's we are having to absorb 25% of the work that was done pre revision. impossible !
Seeing as we all used to finish 2 hours early, should be a piece of piss.