LTB World Class Mail (WCM) in Delivery

[Geezer]

Letter to Branches

No. 609/12 Ref. 230.03 Date: 10th August 2012


To: Branches with POSTAL Members

Dear Colleague

World Class Mail (WCM) in Delivery

Further to LTB 593/12 circulated to Branches on the 2nd August 2012. The Outdoor Dept has received a number of enquiries regarding the status of WCM in Delivery.

Whilst we all recognise that we have a generic National Agreement covering WCM there remains work to be done to introduce it jointly into delivery.

This LTB is to inform Branches that the paragraph below which is a direct lift from the new agreement has yet to be concluded. Brief discussions took place yesterday and meetings will be arranged to bring the relevant paragraph to fruition. However until this work has been concluded and we have an agreed approach in line with the relevant paragraph of the National Agreement then there is no agreed approach for roll out of WCM in Delivery.

Any approach from local management to engage in discussions regarding WCM in Delivery is premature and will not have taken account of the commitment below.

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It is recognised that the approach to World Class Mail in delivery is different and will take account of the major Business Transformation Agreement revision activity that is still outstanding.
The ongoing development and roll out of the World Class Mail programme for delivery will be the subject of further discussions between the Delivery Director, Head of WCM Collections and Delivery and the appropriate CWU National Officer.

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Any enquiries to Bob Gibson’s Office, quoting reference 230.03
Email address: hnutley@cwu.org


Yours sincerely


Bob Gibson
CWU Assistant Secretary

[teesdale]

I thought with wcm that the toys and new ideas would be generated by the staff. In reality wcm is a way to introduce new stuff that Higson already has in mind. Its another Royal Mail management lie, like you will be getting £1300 colleague shares money soon. In mail centres everything new under wcm is eventually removed after finding it doesnt work or all the equipment breaks.

[albebb]

''LTB 609/12 about world class mails in delivery
what exactly does this mean for delivery offices currently going through or about to start WCM. should the local branch ask such offices to ceases and desist until HQ have an agreed approach in line with the relevant paragraph of the national agreement?''

[dvbuk55]

''LTB 609/12 about world class mails in delivery
what exactly does this mean for delivery offices currently going through or about to start WCM. should the local branch ask such offices to ceases and desist until HQ have an agreed approach in line with the relevant paragraph of the national agreement?''

I doubt that very much, in fact you'll probably be urged to go ahead, then subsequently be vilified for jumping the gun by people who think that it was a go it alone effort.

I don't think that WCM should be on any agenda until BT2010 has been applied to every single DO and the equipment is being used for delivery methods.

[fishtank]

[I doubt that very much, in fact you'll probably be urged to go ahead, then subsequently be vilified for jumping the gun by people who think that it was a go it alone effort.

I don't think that WCM should be on any agenda until BT2010 has been applied to every single DO and the equipment is being used for delivery methods.

The problem i can see is that the Indoor Methods Agreement was signed off in February which covers the introduction of 'Backless Frames' and Mini Yorks,revised floorplans,Gantt chart process,task variation and the whole indoor flow process...so if that isn't WCM in delivery i don't know what is.
One agreement says yes and the other says no....no surprise really.

[dvbuk55]

[I doubt that very much, in fact you'll probably be urged to go ahead, then subsequently be vilified for jumping the gun by people who think that it was a go it alone effort.

I don't think that WCM should be on any agenda until BT2010 has been applied to every single DO and the equipment is being used for delivery methods.

The problem i can see is that the Indoor Methods Agreement was signed off in February which covers the introduction of 'Backless Frames' and Mini Yorks,revised floorplans,Gantt chart process,task variation and the whole indoor flow process...so if that isn't WCM in delivery i don't know what is.
One agreement says yes and the other says no....no surprise really.

We had backless frames put in a few months ago and I queried the fact that it would appear that it was WCM by the back door as it hadn't been agreed - I just got a shrug. Really that's the problem, these things are brought in without any qualms by the members because that is what they have been used to over the last few years - putting in disagreements means absolutely cock all. All you get from the usual sources is "grow a pair" but what is really needed is some central direction that is unambiguous and Area and Div Reps to get down to the coal face instead of toeing a line that becomes increasingly further away from the shop floor.

[clashcityrocker]

I think it would be virtually impossible to put backless frames into a delivery office without an Area Rep being aware of the fact.
The whole indoor flow stuff would have to be seen by a H&S rep as well.

[fishtank]

I think it would be virtually impossible to put backless frames into a delivery office without an Area Rep being aware of the fact.

Spoke to my Area Rep this morning.
He has no problem with an office going ahead with an Indoor Methods revision and introducing backless frames,mini york packet bull-ring,task variation and indoor flow...just don't call it WCM.

[dvbuk55]

I think it would be virtually impossible to put backless frames into a delivery office without an Area Rep being aware of the fact.
The whole indoor flow stuff would have to be seen by a H&S rep as well.

I'm sure the area rep was aware, but the first we knew was when the blokes came in measuring up whereabouts they were going - which we thought was a sort of fact finding survey...........but nooooooooo next thing there's a plan displayed (hence the query of WCM) and the backless frames are in. Total waste of time, half the people still collect from the front because in its infinite wisdom the plan relies on "porters" to collect mail from the back in trays mounted on little trolleys, which of course we don't have the manpower for, who then takes it to the relevant frame.................personally I think the guy who came up with the scheme should be mounted. As for the area rep, well would he be involved in IPS, no, would he be collecting mail, no, might he be a porter, no and finally would he give a sh*t........................

[albebb]

''LTB 609/12 about world class mails in delivery
what exactly does this mean for delivery offices currently going through or about to start WCM. should the local branch ask such offices to ceases and desist until HQ have an agreed approach in line with the relevant paragraph of the national agreement?''

''Dear branch sec'



Unless your offices were original trail offices in WCM, which they weren't – then until there is agreement that is precisely what it means.

Regards

Policy Advisor to
CWU Assistant Secretary - Outdoor''

[clashcityrocker]

''LTB 609/12 about world class mails in delivery
what exactly does this mean for delivery offices currently going through or about to start WCM. should the local branch ask such offices to ceases and desist until HQ have an agreed approach in line with the relevant paragraph of the national agreement?''

''Dear branch sec'



Unless your offices were original trail offices in WCM, which they weren't – then until there is agreement that is precisely what it means.

Regards

Policy Advisor to
CWU Assistant Secretary - Outdoor''

So if a line manager starts marking out areas on the floor with yellow and black tape or puts up a picture of a handrail advising us to use it - should we hit the gate?

[dvbuk55]

''LTB 609/12 about world class mails in delivery
what exactly does this mean for delivery offices currently going through or about to start WCM. should the local branch ask such offices to ceases and desist until HQ have an agreed approach in line with the relevant paragraph of the national agreement?''

''Dear branch sec'



Unless your offices were original trail offices in WCM, which they weren't – then until there is agreement that is precisely what it means.

Regards

Policy Advisor to
CWU Assistant Secretary - Outdoor''

So if a line manager starts marking out areas on the floor with yellow and black tape or puts up a picture of a handrail advising us to use it - should we hit the gate?

There's the thing clash, these things are insidious and creep up unannounced and like topsy grows 'n grows.