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working your own duty on your day off....
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scoobydo79
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Re: working your own duty on your day off....
Sorry Folks. I was out of order there. Im just bitter and twisted because the guy that covers the duty I usually do likes nothing better than to come in early ,miss his breaks, carry heavy bags on his back,hides his share of door to doors under another bench Oh and go straight home cos he lives on the delivery and tells people how easy the job is!!!!
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TheCobra
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Re: working your own duty on your day off....
I actually agree with this, our day-off cover leave quite a few erm 'presents' for us when we come back, i.e. mail to the awkward addresses that they couldn't be arsed going to.scoobydo79 wrote:F--- the day off covers. Their more guilty than any one in our office( with a few exceptions) of carving peoples deliveries up when the usual duty holder is on his day off!!!
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Pat Ostman
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Re: working your own duty on your day off....
You are quite within your right to agree or disagree with whatever you want. The problem, for which was apologised forTheCobra wrote:I actually agree with this, our day-off cover leave quite a few erm 'presents' for us when we come back, i.e. mail to the awkward addresses that they couldn't be arsed going to.scoobydo79 wrote:F--- the day off covers. Their more guilty than any one in our office( with a few exceptions) of carving peoples deliveries up when the usual duty holder is on his day off!!!
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: working your own duty on your day off....
Its not the duty that makes someone a w****r, its being a w****r that does.
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Kevin Manchester
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Re: working your own duty on your day off....
Manager can shift anyone anytime under the flexibility agreement but if he shifts you work to your time simple!
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S6 Stroller
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Re: working your own duty on your day off....
That's bollocks. If you are the cover man it's not a reasonable request to be asked to move from your duty just because someone else wants to work their day off. On that particular day, the duty 'belongs' to the cover man. The regular has no claim on it whatsoever. If a duty doesn't get covered because the cover man refuses to shift it's time for lino to get a bag on his/her back...if they can figure out which way up it goes. Same goes for operational reasons. It's not the cover man's problem.millitant wrote:i disagree
you will prob be on a conduct charge for failure to follow a reasonable managers instruction/direction
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as directed due to opporational reasons
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S6 Stroller
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Re: working your own duty on your day off....
I suspect that only applies if you've never shown 'flexibility' previously.Kevin Manchester wrote:Manager can shift anyone anytime under the flexibility agreement but if he shifts you work to your time simple!
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fishtank
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Re: working your own duty on your day off....
If you are the rest day cover it's your duty,if management want to move you they can but they have to be able to justify that using genuine business reasons and that doesn't include making way for an identically trained duty holder.
If there was a third duty that needed covering and only you were trained to do it that would be justification otherwise not happening.
A reserve...slightly shakier ground but reasonable notice should still be given if possible and obviously if i was a reserve and i was bumped and then told i was being shipped out to another office because i had been bumped i would be filling the grievance form in on the way to the other office.
Generally it's a scummy thing to do,if you want overtime you should be prepared to take whatever they throw at you otherwise...stay at home.
If there was a third duty that needed covering and only you were trained to do it that would be justification otherwise not happening.
A reserve...slightly shakier ground but reasonable notice should still be given if possible and obviously if i was a reserve and i was bumped and then told i was being shipped out to another office because i had been bumped i would be filling the grievance form in on the way to the other office.
Generally it's a scummy thing to do,if you want overtime you should be prepared to take whatever they throw at you otherwise...stay at home.
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scoobydo79
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Re: working your own duty on your day off....
Oooh Did I mention that He doesnt bother to do My dead letters either because "Hes only on it for a day and Im back in tomorrow after My day off"
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S6 Stroller
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Re: working your own duty on your day off....
He sounds like a total arsehole.scoobydo79 wrote:Oooh Did I mention that He doesnt bother to do My dead letters either because "Hes only on it for a day and Im back in tomorrow after My day off"........
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ElvisGaddafi
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Re: working your own duty on your day off....
I always believed that if you signed for a duty (including a floating duty) that you could insist on doing the duty you signed for. Therefore, a floater covering five specific duties on the duty holders' days off could not be forced off the duty because the holder wanted to work his or her day off on their own duty. However, I was told recently by my manager that if this was the case at one time, it certainly is not the case now. According to him, regardless of what duty you have signed for, you can be made to do anything.
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millitant
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Re: working your own duty on your day off....
ElvisGaddafi wrote:I always believed that if you signed for a duty (including a floating duty) that you could insist on doing the duty you signed for. Therefore, a floater covering five specific duties on the duty holders' days off could not be forced off the duty because the holder wanted to work his or her day off on their own duty. However, I was told recently by my manager that if this was the case at one time, it certainly is not the case now. According to him, regardless of what duty you have signed for, you can be made to do anything.
to true
its called flexibility
we accepted the agreement
now we have to live by it
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IloveMYredTROLLEY!
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: working your own duty on your day off....
While I can see it as "operational needs" it makes a mockery of the whole re-sign process.
But at the end of the day, if you only want to do your contract hours, judge as best you can how much of any frame you can deliver in the time you have left after fully prepping the duty including killing off the deads before leaving the office.
But at the end of the day, if you only want to do your contract hours, judge as best you can how much of any frame you can deliver in the time you have left after fully prepping the duty including killing off the deads before leaving the office.
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hubbahubba
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Re: working your own duty on your day off....
Friend had a similar arguement with shift manager the other day.In the old days when you signed for your duty,you knew what you were doing every day,every week.Now some staff work in 3 or more different areas in an 8 hour shift! (Mech,streamline,packets etc).When my mate said I signed for X duty,shifty just said "look at 318,as directed-while you're on duty you will go where i deem you needed).
So as you can see,it's not just a DO problem...
So as you can see,it's not just a DO problem...
same as it ever was...
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clashcityrocker
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Re: working your own duty on your day off....
Though most prefer to go to work and be a selfish w****r.fishtank wrote: Generally it's a scummy thing to do,if you want overtime you should be prepared to take whatever they throw at you otherwise...stay at home.
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