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zaveroni
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armani
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Then get out and give someone else a job then. Thats the exact attitude that needs cleared from this Company.DirtyHarry wrote:Working for people like, Lamebrain & Dozier, I can't be arsed !armani wrote:
Sorry, but people get over excited at pretty much anything.
If some of them put half as much energy in to their work as they do to anything that can go against it we'd be in a pretty sound position![]()
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armani
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Re: Ok armani
Ok Ok, come down off your High horse for a minute and think.L Tommo wrote: You work it out Armani WHY we dont give a shite for RM anymore?
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Don't you think it would be better to work for a company that you enjoyed working for and doing a job you took pride in?
Then isn't it better for yorself to go out and find that job wherever it may be.
If you's get as wound up at work as it looks on here you are working double time towards a heart attack.
Or is it that you are still in denial and are clutching at anything you can before giving to what the business sees as the way forward. Hoping that they will U turn and go backwards
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BELIAL
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Re: Ok armani
What is your position on you're pension rights being slashed. Expect long silence[/b]armani wrote:Ok Ok, come down off your High horse for a minute and think.L Tommo wrote: You work it out Armani WHY we dont give a shite for RM anymore?
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Don't you think it would be better to work for a company that you enjoyed working for and doing a job you took pride in?
Then isn't it better for yorself to go out and find that job wherever it may be.
If you's get as wound up at work as it looks on here you are working double time towards a heart attack.
Or is it that you are still in denial and are clutching at anything you can before giving to what the business sees as the way forward. Hoping that they will U turn and go backwards
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axeman
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Re: Ok armani
i do armani but i don't do it for r.m .... this is just a job no pride in it whatsoever just pays some bills ... on dd . But i don't have to go to the bank as i can live quite comfortably on other earings and i dont have to do it if i dont want to eitherarmani wrote:
Don't you think it would be better to work for a company that you enjoyed working for and doing a job you took pride in?
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Ok armani
I have pride in the job but with Royal Mail putting profits ahead of service I want to stay in and fight that mindset. I am allowed to.armani wrote:Ok Ok, come down off your High horse for a minute and think.L Tommo wrote: You work it out Armani WHY we dont give a shite for RM anymore?
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Don't you think it would be better to work for a company that you enjoyed working for and doing a job you took pride in?
Denial - have you checked the facts with a 6.7% pay rise that would equate at least to me a £12 - £13 take home pay rise. Just with the D2D proposals I will loose between £20 and £30 per week so taken together I would be £7 - £18 per week worse off if we had the 6.7% rise straight away. They also want to increase the amount of D2Ds we do, add on to our walks in summer and when sickness/leave occurs without any extra re numeration. So would you accept a deal that makes you week by week worse off, but expects more work and longer hours Please answer this both Armani and Gazza.[/quote]Then isn't it better for yorself to go out and find that job wherever it may be.
If you's get as wound up at work as it looks on here you are working double time towards a heart attack.
Or is it that you are still in denial and are clutching at anything you can before giving to what the business sees as the way forward. Hoping that they will U turn and go backwards
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zaveroni
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ARMANI . YOU CLEARLY ARE SOMEONE WITHOUT ANY INTEGRITY OR MORAL FIBRE !! WHAT AN EARTH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT .. . ARE YOU HAPPY TO BE VALUED THE SAME AS A SHELF STACKER IN TESCO'S ?? ARE YOU HAPPY TO BE CONTRIBUTING MORE TO YOUR PENSIONS WITH YOUR OWN PAY RISE ?? ARE YOU HAPPY TO BE VALUED AS NOTHING MORE THAN 2.5% ?? ARE YOU HAPPY TO ROLL OVER AND GIVE UP ALL YOUR TERMS AND CONDITIONS ... NO REGULAR WORK PATTERN? FLEXIBLE WORKING ?? NO RIGHTS IN THE WORK PLACE ? AN END TO SHIFT BONUSES ? DELIVERING D2D ITEMS FOR NO MONEY ABSORBING IT INTO YOUR OWN DAILY DELIVERY...AN END TO ELECTION/POLL CARD PAYMENTS YOULL HAVE TO DO IT FOR FREE !! COVERING YOUR WORKMATES FOR FREE WHEN THEY GO SICK ?? POTENTIALLY 6 MONTHS OF FREE LABOUR FOR ROYAL MAIL !!!! AND AN END TO OVERTIME .... THERE WILL BE NO OVERTIME !!!1
SO IF YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT AND HAVE READ THE MATERIAL I SUGGEST YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR ATTITUDE .. YOU SPINELESS TWAT !!
SO IF YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT AND HAVE READ THE MATERIAL I SUGGEST YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR ATTITUDE .. YOU SPINELESS TWAT !!
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DirtyHarry
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How about , Lamebrain & Dozier clearing the way for somebody who can actually motivate people? ................... That way you don't lose experiencedarmani wrote:
Then get out and give someone else a job then. Thats the exact attitude that needs cleared from this Company.
postal workers!
Besides , thanks to Tories like yourself , I'm just one of millions of people stuck in a rut because of this nation's lack of industry. So, this "company",
and it's brown nosing company men like yourself, are stuck with me.
DON'T LIFE SUCK, EH ?
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IWW Fellow Worker
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All managers are bastards. Changing jobs won't change that fact. Stick it out here and stick it to your 'managers'. Take the piss out of them at every opportunity. Let everyone know whenever they make a balls-up. Laugh at them and encourage everyone else to do the same. No one will respect them if they're a constant source of amusement. Slowly, but carefully destroy their confidence. After a while, they won't be able to look you in the eye. In short, just give them the same as they give the new starters, the quiet people or anyone else they bully. They've asked for it and they certainly deserve it.
The Industrial Workers of the World. The union whose members never scab!
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
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L Tommo
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Singing from the same song sheet..
Love it IWW fella, I couldnt put it better if i wanted to,, SPOT ON!!!
Well i would of put a few more, "bollox" n fecks" n "w*****s" But top hole...
Its a "THEM AND US STATE & I AINT PLAYING WITH THEM." FECK EM!!!
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Well i would of put a few more, "bollox" n fecks" n "w*****s" But top hole...
Its a "THEM AND US STATE & I AINT PLAYING WITH THEM." FECK EM!!!
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L TOMMO.... ILLEGITIMIS NON CARBORUNDUM........
EAST LONDON MAIL CENTER-ISHHHH
EAST LONDON MAIL CENTER-ISHHHH
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strangler
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IWW Fellow Worker wrote:All managers are bastards. Changing jobs won't change that fact. Stick it out here and stick it to your 'managers'. Take the piss out of them at every opportunity. Let everyone know whenever they make a balls-up. Laugh at them and encourage everyone else to do the same. No one will respect them if they're a constant source of amusement. Slowly, but carefully destroy their confidence. After a while, they won't be able to look you in the eye. In short, just give them the same as they give the new starters, the quiet people or anyone else they bully. They've asked for it and they certainly deserve it.
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armani
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What an attitude to have.IWW Fellow Worker wrote:All managers are bastards. Changing jobs won't change that fact. Stick it out here and stick it to your 'managers'. Take the piss out of them at every opportunity. Let everyone know whenever they make a balls-up. Laugh at them and encourage everyone else to do the same. No one will respect them if they're a constant source of amusement. Slowly, but carefully destroy their confidence. After a while, they won't be able to look you in the eye. In short, just give them the same as they give the new starters, the quiet people or anyone else they bully. They've asked for it and they certainly deserve it.
You seem, by that post, to be a sad, angry, desperate man.
Why would any decent person want to knock someone else just because they are doing their job.
Either that or you have had a bad experience with a manager. But that doesn't mean you need to get the tar brush out to them all.
Just hope that they don't catch you making too many balls ups or your piss taking might end with you out on your ear. What you are displaying by doing the above is nothing more than intimidation and hard luck if you end up going down that road.
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armani
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Zav, I do not know all the details of your proposals as I work for POL.zaveroni wrote:ARMANI . YOU CLEARLY ARE SOMEONE WITHOUT ANY INTEGRITY OR MORAL FIBRE !! WHAT AN EARTH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT .. . ARE YOU HAPPY TO BE VALUED THE SAME AS A SHELF STACKER IN TESCO'S ?? ARE YOU HAPPY TO BE CONTRIBUTING MORE TO YOUR PENSIONS WITH YOUR OWN PAY RISE ?? ARE YOU HAPPY TO BE VALUED AS NOTHING MORE THAN 2.5% ?? ARE YOU HAPPY TO ROLL OVER AND GIVE UP ALL YOUR TERMS AND CONDITIONS ... NO REGULAR WORK PATTERN? FLEXIBLE WORKING ?? NO RIGHTS IN THE WORK PLACE ? AN END TO SHIFT BONUSES ? DELIVERING D2D ITEMS FOR NO MONEY ABSORBING IT INTO YOUR OWN DAILY DELIVERY...AN END TO ELECTION/POLL CARD PAYMENTS YOULL HAVE TO DO IT FOR FREE !! COVERING YOUR WORKMATES FOR FREE WHEN THEY GO SICK ?? POTENTIALLY 6 MONTHS OF FREE LABOUR FOR ROYAL MAIL !!!! AND AN END TO OVERTIME .... THERE WILL BE NO OVERTIME !!!1
SO IF YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT AND HAVE READ THE MATERIAL I SUGGEST YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR ATTITUDE .. YOU SPINELESS TWAT !!
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IWW Fellow Worker
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I'm certainly an angry man, but hardly a sad one. I'm quite a cheerful type of bloke. Anyway, it's not intimidation at all. It's justice. They're not doing a job at all. Anyone can sit about drinking tea or lean on a York while the real workers get on with the job. They're parasites. No more, no less. A bit like yourself, except with a few years service in.armani wrote:What an attitude to have.IWW Fellow Worker wrote:All managers are bastards. Changing jobs won't change that fact. Stick it out here and stick it to your 'managers'. Take the piss out of them at every opportunity. Let everyone know whenever they make a balls-up. Laugh at them and encourage everyone else to do the same. No one will respect them if they're a constant source of amusement. Slowly, but carefully destroy their confidence. After a while, they won't be able to look you in the eye. In short, just give them the same as they give the new starters, the quiet people or anyone else they bully. They've asked for it and they certainly deserve it.
You seem, by that post, to be a sad, angry, desperate man.
Why would any decent person want to knock someone else just because they are doing their job.
Either that or you have had a bad experience with a manager. But that doesn't mean you need to get the tar brush out to them all.
Just hope that they don't catch you making too many balls ups or your piss taking might end with you out on your ear. What you are displaying by doing the above is nothing more than intimidation and hard luck if you end up going down that road.
The Industrial Workers of the World. The union whose members never scab!
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Armani as I put in annoucement and moved to news please reseach before you make comments and dont make personal insults, my tolerance is getting lower and lower after last nights episode (of which you were not part of)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial ... _the_World
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial ... _the_World
If you had bothered to research the IWW you would find that they are anti-management and therefore his point of view is a political one. Please, if you don't understand his view research them or ask him questions. If you don't agree with his position then please use reasoned and structured argument to present a different view. Resorting to name calling only belittles your own position and argument.The IWW's goal was to promote worker solidarity in the revolutionary struggle to overthrow the employing class; its motto was "an injury to one is an injury to all," which improved upon the 19th century Knights of Labor's creed, "an injury to one is the concern of all." In particular, the IWW was organized because of the belief among many unionists, socialists, anarchists and radicals that the AFL not only had failed to effectively organize the U.S. working class, as only about 5% of all workers belonged to unions in 1905, but also was organizing according to narrow craft principles which divided groups of workers. The Wobblies believed that all workers should organize as a class, a philosophy which is still reflected in the Preamble to the current IWW Constitution:
“ The working class and the employing class have nothing in common. There can be no peace so long as hunger and want are found among millions of the working people and the few, who make up the employing class, have all the good things of life. Between these two classes a struggle must go on until the workers of the world organize as a class, take possession of the means of production, abolish the wage system, and live in harmony with the Earth. ... Instead of the conservative motto, 'A fair day's wage for a fair day's work', we must inscribe on our banner the revolutionary watchword, 'Abolition of the wage system.' It is the historic mission of the working class to do away with capitalism.
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