With our friends down South having Friday off, our Saturday dely was tiny compared to normal Saturdays.We were allowed to leave office at 06.45 which i thought at the time was a bit strange, normally get held back til 07.30, something about time the first letter can be delivered.
After returning to office we were informed that any shortfall in hours from Sat would be worked off next week.Can anyone tell me if this was part of any agreement? I asked if your duty is always up to its time each day and you never do ext dely how can these hours be clawed back,to which i got the usual answer "i'll get back to you on that one". Can anyone shed any light on this.
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Clawback of hours?
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hatetheboss
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Re: Clawback of hours?
No, they can't ask you to work the hours the following week, the agreement states the hours need to be payed back the same week, Go tell them to do one
They are coming to take us away
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madmartin
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Re: Clawback of hours?
AMD has to be agreed with you before you leave the officehatetheboss wrote:No, they can't ask you to work the hours the following week, the agreement states the hours need to be payed back the same week, Go tell them to do one
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Biker Mouse
- Posts: 543
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- Gender: Male
Re: Clawback of hours?
Think you may be getting mixed up with the thirty minute flexing. They can ask you to work 30 mins extra, which you don't HAVE to do but if you do the extra then they must allow you to have it back in the same week.hatetheboss wrote:No, they can't ask you to work the hours the following week, the agreement states the hours need to be payed back the same week, Go tell them to do one
There is NO agreement for clawback of hours due to a shortfall of work. They must find you something to do or send you home on full pay!
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Glenno
- Posts: 1491
- Joined: 05 Jun 2007, 13:12
Re: Clawback of hours?
Copied from P&Mod
Phase 3 – Transforming the way we work
Both parties are committed to introducing new ways of working
throughout the business by April 2008. In order to achieve this there will
be a trial in four offices per AGM area covering the following:
- New arrangements to cover for one another and develop
sensible options to absorb absences, and increased workload,
where time exists within normal hours
- To ensure all paid work hours are utilised
- To creates a working environment where employees, CWU reps
and managers feel valued and motivated.
This flexibility could also facilitate arrangements for employees to make
their own arrangements to cover and swap duties (subject to approval
from their manager) – within contracted hours, providing quality of
service is not adversely affected and there are no additional costs to the
business.
Local ideas will be generated, agreed and deployed through trials by early
January 2008. The trials will be nationally evaluated to identify the widest
range of options for national roll out.
Local offices will be entitled to the 1.5% pay increase from 7 April 2008
subject to deployment of these new arrangements. Any offices where
deployment is deferred will receive the additional 1.5% from the date of
deployment
Phase 3 – Transforming the way we work
Both parties are committed to introducing new ways of working
throughout the business by April 2008. In order to achieve this there will
be a trial in four offices per AGM area covering the following:
- New arrangements to cover for one another and develop
sensible options to absorb absences, and increased workload,
where time exists within normal hours
- To ensure all paid work hours are utilised
- To creates a working environment where employees, CWU reps
and managers feel valued and motivated.
This flexibility could also facilitate arrangements for employees to make
their own arrangements to cover and swap duties (subject to approval
from their manager) – within contracted hours, providing quality of
service is not adversely affected and there are no additional costs to the
business.
Local ideas will be generated, agreed and deployed through trials by early
January 2008. The trials will be nationally evaluated to identify the widest
range of options for national roll out.
Local offices will be entitled to the 1.5% pay increase from 7 April 2008
subject to deployment of these new arrangements. Any offices where
deployment is deferred will receive the additional 1.5% from the date of
deployment
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Glenno
- Posts: 1491
- Joined: 05 Jun 2007, 13:12
Re: Clawback of hours?
• Variation of hours – Where necessary, for example when traffic
volumes are unexpectedly high or resourcing issues arise, individuals
may be asked and may themselves request to vary their duty times by
up to 30 minutes on a swings and roundabouts basis. Again, individual
circumstances will be taken into account and total weekly contractual
hours would not change.
Also this, althou it states bad weather, it could be used

volumes are unexpectedly high or resourcing issues arise, individuals
may be asked and may themselves request to vary their duty times by
up to 30 minutes on a swings and roundabouts basis. Again, individual
circumstances will be taken into account and total weekly contractual
hours would not change.
Also this, althou it states bad weather, it could be used
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soltan
- Posts: 79
- Joined: 11 Aug 2007, 12:34
Re: Clawback of hours?
Glenno wrote:• Variation of hours – Where necessary, for example when traffic
volumes are unexpectedly high or resourcing issues arise, individuals
may be asked and may themselves request to vary their duty times by
up to 30 minutes on a swings and roundabouts basis. Again, individual
circumstances will be taken into account and total weekly contractual
hours would not change.
Also this, althou it states bad weather, it could be used![]()
At the bottom weekly contracted hours don't change
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halfull
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 858
- Joined: 22 Jan 2011, 13:37
- Gender: Male
Re: Clawback of hours?
clawing/banking hours is a no go! not agreed by union.
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Talell
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 227
- Joined: 16 Aug 2010, 22:31
- Gender: Male
Re: Clawback of hours?
Clawback does not exist unless you only work something like 2 days a week iirc
Tell your manager to cram it
Tell your manager to cram it