Prepping Unaddressed Mail (D2Ds)

[Dorset Plodder]

Agree with your point Trolley ...If your manager became aware that he was paying someone overtime to complete what he's already payed another postie to do...it might make a difference in how (or if indeed he bothered) to deal with it.

Many PTers would love to be in the position to simply say, "The clocks running you've got four hours work out of me and then I'm off"! However in the real world most don't want the crappy PT contract they've been given and are often keen to work any available overtime..... even if it's just because the Management(?) can't organise bugger all!

Strange how there doesn't seem to be any extra hours available at the start of the week and then as the week progresses more and more overtime becomes available. Until on Saturday you could do two duties if you wanted!

[Dorset Plodder]

It's all bollox,full timers are not doing what they are supposed to do when they are told to prep this or that,managers are letting them leave stuff say the D2D's,full timers are giving the i aint got time shite,part timers are coming in to s**t,reps don't give a f**k,colleagues don't give a f**k,the place is f****d,and while we slag off management,we need to look at our selves.

Solidarity my f***ing arse.
I finished early today though.

Sounds like you had a bad evening Postman Can't say I disagree with a word you've said.... Remember though "There is no I in TEAM".....No but there's an E in Me...Me...Me...

[POSTMAN]

The problem is all the newbies on dodgy rolling (I can get rid of you in a tick) part time contracts swallow a lot because of said rolling contracts.
Getting the full timers out seems to be the priority by all.

Did someone mention solidarity?

[fishtank]

Getting the full timers out seems to be the priority by all.

Park&loop will mostly change that.
No point in getting the full-timer out without his partner.
Our part-timers work full days anyway.
Solidarity still means f**k all though.

[Dorset Plodder]

Totally agree..but I can't see what the problem is. If you're a FT postie (which normally means you're on a permanent contract) then you're basically "Fire-Proof"! Play by their rules......stick to your contact...what's the problem?

Take it FT's "Getting out" means out on Delivery? And that makes sense, although the FTer can chill out with a bit of chit chat and a few coffees while he's waiting for his P&L buddy to catch up!
Assumed your "Getting out" meant Redundancy! Although I believe that's still a priority for RM.

We do need our FT Posties to step up and help improve the job for everyone! A PTer on a temporary contract can't really be expected to stand up to the Management(?) bullshit and lies...not unless he's got another job lined up! Wish we had more people with a bit of moral backbone and some guts. God help us if we had to rely on some of our colleagues in a really desperate situation.......like our grandfather's had to in WW2. We'd be speaking German now if we did!

[Lazycarton]

I am a PTmer.I assumed that I had to prep ("throw off") my own D2D's. Is that not right?

[clashcityrocker]

I am a PTmer.I assumed that I had to prep ("throw off") my own D2D's. Is that not right?

It would depend on:
Your contracted hours on any given day.
The number of D2D contracts you have.
The number of delivery points on your delivery.
The traffic for your walk on any given day.
If you have time.

[Lazycarton]

I have never been given any guidance on D2Ds. The stuff is just left at your walk and I have done it as and when I can. My contracted hours are 8 - 2 5 days a week. The number of D2Ds is what they give you each week. between 4 and 9.

Why would the number of delvery points make any difference to whi is responsible for prepping them?

The traffic for your walk on any given day. What does that mean?

If you have time? That seems like a loafers charter to piss about?

Rob.

[clashcityrocker]

The traffic (the number of items) for your office is recorded each day.
Your manager will have a fair idea how many items your walk gets.
He therefore has a fair idea how long it will take to prep that duty.

Assuming you are still on a 3hr 30 delivery you have about 1 hr 30 indoor time.
If the duty had about 1500 items/day I think your D2D should be prepped for you.
If you have less mail you begin to have time to prep your D2D (assuming you don't have masses of redirections)

The time allocated for prepping D2D relates to the number of delivery points.
If you had 3 contracts and 500 delivery points it "should" take you about 10 minutes to prep the 16% D2D each day.
If you had 3 contracts and 1000 delivery points it would take 20 minutes each day.

The busier the walk is the less time you have to prep the D2D.
The more D2D contracts you have and the more delivery points you have, the longer they take to prep.

So if you had masses of mail and loads of redirections and lots of D2D contracts the longer it would all take.
This means you might require assistance to complete your delivery within your contracted hours.
Part of that assistance might be help with your D2D prep.

Some might call it a loafer's charter.
I call it a realistic workload.

[Lazycarton]

Thanks for that. There is still a lot of RM speak that I am not familiar with. What are "contracts" in the context of I have an 8am - 2pm contract?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Thanks for that. There is still a lot of RM speak that I am not familiar with. What are "contracts" in the context of I have an 8am - 2pm contract?

Thats a 30 hour contract

6hrs x 5 = 30 hours

Of course that can be Permanent, Temporary, Casual or Fixed Term

[Bazman]

Due to a customer complaint in our area (Customer being someone that is having their D2D leaflets delivered by RM) that their advertisement was in the middle of a bunch of other D2D items, we are no longer allowed to collate D2D's inside each other in order to deliver them with the mail, which means that the only alternative now is to prep them into the frame alongside the mail.

It's a freaking nightmare.

[taurus88]

Due to a customer complaint in our area (Customer being someone that is having their D2D leaflets delivered by RM) that their advertisement was in the middle of a bunch of other D2D items, we are no longer allowed to collate D2D's inside each other in order to deliver them with the mail, which means that the only alternative now is to prep them into the frame alongside the mail.

It's a freaking nightmare.

You can still put them together without putting them inside each other - it takes the same amount of time and saves the same amount of time, so long as you're intelligent enough to work it out. It's what I've always done rather than throw them in one at a time (and rather than put them inside one another). It's a bit fiddly at first, but once you get used to it, it achieves exactly the same as the other.

[L8Hatter]

Thanks for that. There is still a lot of RM speak that I am not familiar with. What are "contracts" in the context of I have an 8am - 2pm contract?

6 hours means you prep your own D2Ds. It's what full-timers get for their own duty. The other two hours being spent on IPS/packets/prepping other rounds.

Wouldn't grumble about a six hour contract. Haven't been any at ours for ages. I was the last to join on a 25 hour contract two years ago. Fairly crap, but better than all the poor buggers who've joined since on 20 hours. 60% dropout rate at least