Sickofit wrote:Be good if they allowed us time to do this lol
any vehicle you take out as part of your duty - you should have 25 minutes facility time built in to your duty for these checks at start and 15 minutes at end (for fueling up etc)
Laugh a minute this thread, if you are a part timer 20 hours like me you will find time for checks cuts no ice with management, all they want is you to complete your round in impossible times in whatever way you can, to hell with the rules unless they are under threat from a problem caused by this approach. If you follow the rules in my experience you can expect reduced hours and later starts as punishment. As of course most p/t workers do far more than the allotted 20 minimum and often rely on more.
redneck wrote:Laugh a minute this thread, if you are a part timer 20 hours like me you will find time for checks cuts no ice with management, all they want is you to complete your round in impossible times in whatever way you can, to hell with the rules unless they are under threat from a problem caused by this approach. If you follow the rules in my experience you can expect reduced hours and later starts as punishment. As of course most p/t workers do far more than the allotted 20 minimum and often rely on more.
redneck wrote:Laugh a minute this thread, if you are a part timer 20 hours like me you will find time for checks cuts no ice with management, all they want is you to complete your round in impossible times in whatever way you can, to hell with the rules unless they are under threat from a problem caused by this approach. If you follow the rules in my experience you can expect reduced hours and later starts as punishment. As of course most p/t workers do far more than the allotted 20 minimum and often rely on more.
spot on
Do the checks! It's your neck on the line if something goes wrong,the screws will have you by the balls and 'I didn't have time' will not wash with them.
Get your rep involved.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been. My BFF Clash The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
redneck wrote:Laugh a minute this thread, if you are a part timer 20 hours like me you will find time for checks cuts no ice with management, all they want is you to complete your round in impossible times in whatever way you can, to hell with the rules unless they are under threat from a problem caused by this approach. If you follow the rules in my experience you can expect reduced hours and later starts as punishment. As of course most p/t workers do far more than the allotted 20 minimum and often rely on more.
spot on
Do the checks! It's your neck on the line if something goes wrong,the screws will have you by the balls and 'I didn't have time' will not wash with them.
Get your rep involved.
If doing the checks means that ultimately I will be left on 20 hours per week nothing more then I may as well be fired. I never see anyone doing the checks at our depot. Therefore I would be highlighted as someone who costs them more money and is filling their day in - result less money for doing the job properly. This also applies to bag weights, use of trolleys and all other company procedures which are widely ignored.
redneck wrote:Laugh a minute this thread, if you are a part timer 20 hours like me you will find time for checks cuts no ice with management, all they want is you to complete your round in impossible times in whatever way you can, to hell with the rules unless they are under threat from a problem caused by this approach. If you follow the rules in my experience you can expect reduced hours and later starts as punishment. As of course most p/t workers do far more than the allotted 20 minimum and often rely on more.
spot on
Do the checks! It's your neck on the line if something goes wrong,the screws will have you by the balls and 'I didn't have time' will not wash with them.
Get your rep involved.
If doing the checks means that ultimately I will be left on 20 hours per week nothing more then I may as well be fired. I never see anyone doing the checks at our depot. Therefore I would be highlighted as someone who costs them more money and is filling their day in - result less money for doing the job properly. This also applies to bag weights, use of trolleys and all other company procedures which are widely ignored.
Your call...all of you.
What about the rep there,is he aware?
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been. My BFF Clash The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
redneck wrote:Laugh a minute this thread, if you are a part timer 20 hours like me you will find time for checks cuts no ice with management, all they want is you to complete your round in impossible times in whatever way you can, to hell with the rules unless they are under threat from a problem caused by this approach. If you follow the rules in my experience you can expect reduced hours and later starts as punishment. As of course most p/t workers do far more than the allotted 20 minimum and often rely on more.
spot on
Do the checks! It's your neck on the line if something goes wrong,the screws will have you by the balls and 'I didn't have time' will not wash with them.
Get your rep involved.
If doing the checks means that ultimately I will be left on 20 hours per week nothing more then I may as well be fired. I never see anyone doing the checks at our depot. Therefore I would be highlighted as someone who costs them more money and is filling their day in - result less money for doing the job properly. This also applies to bag weights, use of trolleys and all other company procedures which are widely ignored.
I'm sorry but maybe you should look for another job if you can't survive on your contracted hours, the rules are there to protect you, they're not there so you can ignore them because it'll cost you OT..........anyway, that's what the grievance procedure is for.
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
Just curious,do you guys have that weekly sheet on a Monday that you have to tick off for the weekly check?
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been. My BFF Clash The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
Changed days! When I started nearly 17 years ago, our office at least had a designated 'fleet manager' and boy was he good! There is no way any van would have left the office like that!
redneck wrote:Laugh a minute this thread, if you are a part timer 20 hours like me you will find time for checks cuts no ice with management, all they want is you to complete your round in impossible times in whatever way you can, to hell with the rules unless they are under threat from a problem caused by this approach. If you follow the rules in my experience you can expect reduced hours and later starts as punishment. As of course most p/t workers do far more than the allotted 20 minimum and often rely on more.
spot on
Do the checks! It's your neck on the line if something goes wrong,the screws will have you by the balls and 'I didn't have time' will not wash with them.
Get your rep involved.
If doing the checks means that ultimately I will be left on 20 hours per week nothing more then I may as well be fired. I never see anyone doing the checks at our depot. Therefore I would be highlighted as someone who costs them more money and is filling their day in - result less money for doing the job properly. This also applies to bag weights, use of trolleys and all other company procedures which are widely ignored.
I'm sorry but maybe you should look for another job if you can't survive on your contracted hours, the rules are there to protect you, they're not there so you can ignore them because it'll cost you OT..........anyway, that's what the grievance procedure is for.
The difference between fellow workers in RM has never been greater; one set (the full timers) get the decent guaranteed hours and have every right to follow procedures and be paid for it. The other set (the part timers) get all kinds of weird hours thrown at them and are at risk of a major loss of money if they follow procedures, due to not being chosen for overtime available as perceived to be a slower worker by following those same procedures. And I'm afraid I would also currently class putting something into grievance as a further reason for management to reduce the available hours of the part timer. I am in the union but the rep has said there is very little he can do, apart from trying to even out the pain of wage loss for part timers in a local cost cutting exercise evenly across all p/t staff.
Changed days! When I started nearly 17 years ago, our office at least had a designated 'fleet manager' and boy was he good! There is no way any van would have left the office like that!