OFFICES WITH A FAILING REVISION:LIST

[DGP1]

Still failing and cutting off happening in my office even though they've added another half dozen part timers to take loops off other walks. The cut offs are cutting off!

[POSTMAN]

Market Drayton ?

We missed this.
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1 out 1 in?

[POSTMAN]

87. ELLESMERE PORT CH65 & 66

[Glenno]

Maybe soon to be more as the pressure rises to get these bloody revisions in at pace

[vigilante]

The cut offs are cutting off![/quote]

[Superfly]

You can add Stafford to the list. It was supposed to come in 4 phases, phase 1 went live 2 weeks ago and they had to pull the plug on it today whilst they try and find out whats gone wrong, and before the rest of the office went live.

[fishtank]

You can add Stafford to the list. It was supposed to come in 4 phases, phase 1 went live 2 weeks ago and they had to pull the plug on it today whilst they try and find out whats gone wrong, and before the rest of the office went live.

Alas only those who do the job can tell both Royal Mail and CWU HQ why these revisions don't work and our opinions it would appear are worthless.
They tweak and they fiddle with the model week and they change this and that with the IWT but they refuse to listen to what we told the 18 months ago.
The basic system of 2 in a van park&loop is fundamentally flawed because it is overburdened with inefficiencies a single duty didn't have and those are multiplied because there are two of you.
In order for it to work properly you have to vastly reduce the duty sizes and that is not going to happen because that would require an investment in hours when Royal Mail are fruitlessly chasing a reduction.
The only thing that will give it an appearance of working is members cutting corners and killing themselves but how long will that last?
The only question now is how long can RM and HQ hold out before they run up the white flag?
There are some massive egos at stake.

[Mr Rush]

The basic system of 2 in a van park&loop is fundamentally flawed because it is overburdened with inefficiencies a single duty didn't have and those are multiplied because there are two of you.

I suspect as far as RM are concerned the real efficiency gains in P&L are to be had through casualisation. Sequenced mail and having all the loops marked on the frame (assuming the planner got it right) are two moves that would seem to be targeted at making the job do-able by anyone brought in off the street.

[Stormproof]

UPDATED

Is your office failing with the new revision? PM me the office and Postcode (as most cities have more than 1 office)for anonymity and I'll put it on the list. Lets see how many are failing and have'nt hit the headlines yet. I don't want to put in the reports from the press just yet, rather it was from the horses mouth

If your office is in the list and is not failing anymore then please let us know.

1. BARNSLEY DO
2. STRATFORD UPON AVON DO
3. DUNDEE EAST DO
4. BARROW-IN-FURNESS DO LA13-LA17 Working
5. LIVINGSTON DO
6. LEEDS LS1/LS2 DO
7. TROON DO
8. BEITH DO
9. DALRY DO
10. KILWINNING DO
11. NORTH WEST DO M27/M28/M38
12. CREWE DO
13. GARSTANG DO PR3
14. SHEEPSCAR DO LS6/LS7
15. DENTON DO M34
16. ADDLESTONE DO KT15
17. BRAMLEY DO LS13
18. RAYLEIGH DO SS
19. WARWICK DO
20. DEWSBURY DO
21. BELFAST DO Tomb St BT7
22. PETERLEE DO
23. SUNDERLAND DO
24. GATESHEAD DO
25. DINNINGTON DO Sheffield
26. CARLISLE DO CA1
27. MORECAMBE DO
28. HERNE BAY DO CT6
29. CALDERWAY DO WF13/14
30. FAVERSHAM DO
31. MAIDSTONE DO ME14/15/16
32. NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE(WEST) DO
33. STROUD DO GL6 Working 95+% of the time
34. DARWEN DO BB3
35. LEIGH DO
36. RUNCORN DO
37. ST HELENS DO
38. HYTHE DO CT21
39. WIGAN DO
40. MILTON KEYNES MK1-16
41. BOGNOR REGIS LDO PO21
42. EDGWARE DO (HA)
43. PINNER DO (HA) Part Revision- Failed
44. SALISBURY DO
45. ANDOVER DO
46. EASTLEIGH DO
47. ASHTON-UNDER-LYNE DO
48. CHESTERFIELD DO S40 1AA
49. BLACKPOOL DO
50. ROCHDALE DO OL16
51. ABERDEEN ALTENS
52. HOYLAKE DO CH47
53. NEWTONABBEY DO BT36
54. POLEGATE BN26
55. EASTBOURNE BN21
56. CHRISTCHURCH DO BH23
57. CAMBRIDGE DOCB4
58. BOOTLE DO l21-23
59. ROTHERHAM DO
60. NEWHAVEN DO BN9
61. WESTHAM DO BN23
62. SANDWICH CT13
63. PRESTON SOUTH DO
64. TWICKENHAM DO TW1 & TW2
65. GRIMSBY DO
66. HALFWAY DO
67. BOURNEMOUTH DO BH1-3 & BH5-8
68. OLNEY DO MK46
69. LANCASTER DO LA1
70. WAKEFIELD DO
71. ILKESTON DO
72. DUDLEY DO DY1/DY2/DY3
73. DELL DO EDINBURGH
74. BEXHILL DO
75. REDCAR DO TS10
76. NEW FERRY DO CH62
77. PRENTO DO CH43
78. SOLIHULL DO
79. KENILWORTH DO
80. PORTSMOUTH DO
81. BENFLEET DO SS7
82. BURY DO BL0
83. WEST PARK DO PLYMOUTH PL5
84. SWANSCOMBE DO DA10
85. NEWRY DO NI
86. ST AUSTELL PL25
87. ELLESMERE PORT CH65 & 66
88. STAFFORD DO ST16/17/18/19/20/21

[music4essex]

Just heard Basildon SS14 has just started P&L and they are having to pull in the casuals cause it is not working

Essex M

[Superfly]

The basic system of 2 in a van park&loop is fundamentally flawed because it is overburdened with inefficiencies a single duty didn't have and those are multiplied because there are two of you.

I suspect as far as RM are concerned the real efficiency gains in P&L are to be had through casualisation. Sequenced mail and having all the loops marked on the frame (assuming the planner got it right) are two moves that would seem to be targeted at making the job do-able by anyone brought in off the street.

The problem is, the job isn't do-able by those that have been doing the jobs for years. We were led to believe that once the walk had been sequenced and rationalised, anyone one would be able to drop onto any duty and do a fare days work. The truth is, that we have duties that make no sense on the ground and do not follow on in a logically. They've planned using traffic from the quietest time of the year and then wonder why we cant complete when things pick up and we cut off.

I'm paid for 7.48 hrs a day and I work to the best of my ability, using the tools I am given to do the job. If I cant complete and have to cut off, then that's their problem. I'm not worried, not bothered anymore and I'm not paid enough to fix the problems they've created.

[MADMAXMS]

Superfly, I`m with you buddy, ive been a postman for some years now! use all the tools that your given and do the job as they want you to do it, If this means that your not going to complete in time then its not down to you. Just as long as your doing the job by the book then you dont have a problem.In are office we have now been at this for almost a year. monday, tuesday i just about finish on my time. as soon as wednesday comes we lose 3 loops. We have temp staff in that cover all the loops taken of all the rounds. remember remember the good old days!!!!! good luck to all and keep your chin up superfly.

[POSTMAN]

89. BASILDON DO SS14

[boogyman]

Superfly, I`m with you buddy, ive been a postman for some years now! use all the tools that your given and do the job as they want you to do it, If this means that your not going to complete in time then its not down to you. Just as long as your doing the job by the book then you dont have a problem.In are office we have now been at this for almost a year. monday, tuesday i just about finish on my time. as soon as wednesday comes we lose 3 loops. We have temp staff in that cover all the loops taken of all the rounds. remember remember the good old days!!!!! good luck to all and keep your chin up superfly.

whats a failing office ? our office as had revision but trollys are not being used. should only be on sorting for certian times but managment make you go back on( union don't seem to care) mail and parcels are being left in office till day after, the whole place stinks.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Superfly, I`m with you buddy, ive been a postman for some years now! use all the tools that your given and do the job as they want you to do it, If this means that your not going to complete in time then its not down to you. Just as long as your doing the job by the book then you dont have a problem.In are office we have now been at this for almost a year. monday, tuesday i just about finish on my time. as soon as wednesday comes we lose 3 loops. We have temp staff in that cover all the loops taken of all the rounds. remember remember the good old days!!!!! good luck to all and keep your chin up superfly.

whats a failing office ? our office as had revision but trollys are not being used. should only be on sorting for certian times but managment make you go back on( union don't seem to care) mail and parcels are being left in office till day after, the whole place stinks.

Sounds like it should be failing, but that the majority are making it work.

All together now.

Where have all the posties gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the posties gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the posties gone?
Management have P&L'd them every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?