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Doms trying to get us to do I.P.S. quicker

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Re: Doms trying to get us to do I.S. quicker

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clashcityrocker wrote:I didn't think there was any IPS any more.
Don't the machines sequence everything?
Since we have been getting sequenced mail the amount of letters to sort by hand on ips has more than doubled
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STEWPOT wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:I didn't think there was any IPS any more.
Don't the machines sequence everything?
Since we have been getting sequenced mail the amount of letters to sort by hand on ips has more than doubled
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Totally agree, they should've run the old mech machines alongside the WSM. The new ones reject so much.
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Stormproof wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:I didn't think there was any IPS any more.
Don't the machines sequence everything?
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Re: Doms trying to get us to do I.S. quicker

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Stormproof wrote:The new ones reject so much.
Yeah, because 30 rejects per batch is obscene.

Just wait until your parent MC gets iLSMs, then your rejects will drop to really low levels (unless you get the same solystic engineers we did, then you'll get record high)
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Talell wrote:
Stormproof wrote:The new ones reject so much.
Yeah, because 30 rejects per batch is obscene.
Whilst I accept your assertion that 30 rejects per batch is the norm is there any explanation for why we get more IPS now we are sequenced.

Just in my section of 30 odd duties we get 2 yorkies of sequenced mail twice a day - thats fine and dandy.

Yet we get 5 trays of CCS Reject Auto Billed every day and 1 - 2 yorks of manual letters on the 1st run and 3 - 5 trays of the CCS Rejects in the last run just before release time. Long may it continue a the longer I am inside the less I am outside. :Very Happy

By the way beyond the obvious what does "CSS Reject Auto Billed" actually mean - are the parasites charged extra when the CCS machine rejects their mail.
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Re: Doms trying to get us to do I.P.S. quicker

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Auto billed means any response service items (BR/freepost) in there have already been billed and do not need manual entry at the DO.
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It's not what the CSS machines can do that seems to be the problem,it would appear to my untrained eye to be the limitation on what and how much can go through a batch coupled with the much longer time it takes to sequence compared to walksort..
We don't seem to get a lot of rejects but we do seem to get two kinds of manual now.
Stuff that could have gone through but there was no time and stuff that the machines just can't deal with because it's too thin/thick/odd shaped or covered in plastic.
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Re: Doms trying to get us to do I.S. quicker

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Just in my section of 30 odd duties we get 2 yorkies of sequenced mail
I think would that is around 3 batches, so 30 *3 = 90 rejects approx, around a quarter of a perstop? if the figures I get are any indication (and I have some of the worse figures in my unit).
Yet we get 5 trays of CCS Reject Auto Billed every day
Whoa, wait, what? that's around 1~k, how the heck are they managing that? short of feeding mail backwards, or refeeding out of sequence, or putting mail for the wrong batch in.
Are you 100% sure they are CSS rejects because that is insane.
3 - 5 trays of the CCS Rejects in the last run just before release time
wave 2? Seriously? the offices we currently sequence to wave 2 in my unit, walks only get a handful of letters, I've had one get 2 letters. Fair enough the reject rate on w2 is higher because the codes are really crap (seriously, should see the state of some of them, iirc the wcm MC's have the worst codes) How is your A+ data? get your manager to talk to your CRAMP planner, worst comes to worst, goto the office and clean the machines yourself, because the operators aren't doing their jobs properly
By the way beyond the obvious what does "CSS Reject Auto Billed" actually mean - are the parasites charged extra when the CCS machine rejects their mail.
No idea, I assumed it meant it went straight to IPS in the DO, without needing to be recorded/weighed
Auto billed means any response service items (BR/freepost) in there have already been billed and do not need manual entry at the DO
Just a FYI, they are looking to turn that AI function off, since things are currently not being billed correctly (stuff getting billed twice, some not at all etc)
fishtank wrote:It's not what the CSS machines can do that seems to be the problem,it would appear to my untrained eye to be the limitation on what and how much can go through a batch coupled with the much longer time it takes to sequence compared to walksort..
We don't seem to get a lot of rejects but we do seem to get two kinds of manual now.
Stuff that could have gone through but there was no time and stuff that the machines just can't deal with because it's too thin/thick/odd shaped or covered in plastic.
there is no technical limitation on batch sizes, there however is a guideline on batch sizes for operator comfort, which is 5k, however I have ran batches around 8.5k before.

There is a hard cap for the amount of trays you are allowed to run at once, which is again for operator comfort, you are not allowed to run a batch of more than 20 trays. Ever.

An operator is within his rights to refuse to sequence a batch which has less than 6 trays, in this case he should walksort it, which is something you can do on a CSS.

The reason why you are getting 2 types of rejects (and you should have been getting them well before walk sequencing) is stuff from manual, and mech short codes.

Manual is there for the exact reasons you have said.

Short codes are letters that the machine has sorted, but doesn't have enough information to sequence or walksort (i.e. someone has only put FF89 instead of FF89 4GO)


Heh, should I just make a 'Ask a machine operator anything!' thread?
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

That's brilliant Talell thanks for the insight.
Whoa, wait, what? that's around 1~k, how the heck are they managing that? short of feeding mail backwards, or refeeding out of sequence, or putting mail for the wrong batch in.
Are you 100% sure they are CSS rejects because that is insane.
Yep thats what it says on the perstop. Mind you today we only had 3 in total over the 2 waves (1 on the last wave) so perhaps its getting better.
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