the demise of seniority

[arnold cheshire]

rm used to pay you to learn and pass driving tests

thats news to me and i started in 1989

[dvbuk55]

rm used to pay you to learn and pass driving tests

thats news to me and i started in 1989

True though two of our staff were trained by RM and that would have been after 1989 - one of them is now a prison officer, the other has his own business as some sort of media provider. So pass the test and all things are possible................

As an aside one of our drivers recently had a bump in the yard, so pretty minor and not at speed and had to take an internal driving test by the AA, which he allegedly failed and was told to retake it - an apparently 4 hour ordeal........................has anyone else any experience of these measures?

[non-driver7]

I have decided I will pass my test with the bonus I get and then leave royal mail for a job or career that I want to do

[Cut Off King]

As has been said on this forum, there are winners & losers

[Lounge Lizard]

I have decided I will pass my test with the bonus I get and then leave royal mail for a job or career that I want to do

Indeed, there's no end of opportunities once you've got a driving licence, pizza delivery, taxi driving, the list is endless .......

[maisymoo04]

rm used to pay you to learn and pass driving tests

thats news to me and i started in 1989

True though two of our staff were trained by RM and that would have been after 1989 - one of them is now a prison officer, the other has his own business as some sort of media provider. So pass the test and all things are possible................

As an aside one of our drivers recently had a bump in the yard, so pretty minor and not at speed and had to take an internal driving test by the AA, which he allegedly failed and was told to retake it - an apparently 4 hour ordeal........................has anyone else any experience of these measures?

alright dv hows u matey

[dvbuk55]

rm used to pay you to learn and pass driving tests

thats news to me and i started in 1989

True though two of our staff were trained by RM and that would have been after 1989 - one of them is now a prison officer, the other has his own business as some sort of media provider. So pass the test and all things are possible................

As an aside one of our drivers recently had a bump in the yard, so pretty minor and not at speed and had to take an internal driving test by the AA, which he allegedly failed and was told to retake it - an apparently 4 hour ordeal........................has anyone else any experience of these measures?

alright dv hows u matey

I'm like a greek god maisy..............ancient and bits falling off but still going. And hows the world with you?

[maisymoo04]

hahaha 1 year in with methods and i can say i love it

[dvbuk55]

hahaha 1 year in with methods and i can say i love it

In fairness it's been a good thing for some, they take the easy role whilst the partner sees to the vehicle, parcels, returns etc. On a walk I can only see advantages to the use of HCT. We'll have to wait and see what privatisation brings

[BELIAL]

So does seniority still apply ? or does the bullies charter rule the day?
When major change hits a DO with an even FT/PT split how are walks allocated?
Are walks meant to be chosen on a seniority basis and duties constructed to fit , or are walks matched to duties prior to a resign and designated as either PT or FT ?
If the latter then seniority takes a hammering if the majority of PTers are recent entrants - you could be left with PTers with two years service taking duties while FTers with ten years in ending up as reserves.

[bigcol]

In our office the 39 and 32 hour duties were on separate lists. A lot of FTs are spare whilst the majority of 32 PTs got their own walk/2 walk float. Of course, nearly all the FTs are more senior than the PTs. The 20 PTs get what ever crap is left over.

I believe our office is roughly 50/50 FT/PT.

[R@YAL F@IL]

But as I cannot drive I am not getting what I deserve.

I beg to differ, your inability to drive gives you exactly what you deserve, a non driving selection set.

To start griping about seniority is frankly laughable, I don't care if you have thirty years seniority with the last seven in delivery, seniority only works when across the board when tied to experience.
Everyone with five years in delivery is no less experienced than the next, (they know no less than another about that particular skill), unless they have worked to a lesser skill set. That person unfortunately is you, someone with lesser seniority but sufficient delivery experience behind them who can also drive is technically more experienced, even deserving!

I have the experience of an extra weeks holiday for a start

[Himaggen]

I have the experience of an extra weeks holiday for a start

That may be so but the less 'senior' person
doesn't need the extra week due to the lack of energy they expended whilst sat in the van!

[secluder]

I have decided I will pass my test with the bonus I get and then leave royal mail for a job or career that I want to do

Indeed, there's no end of opportunities once you've got a driving licence, pizza delivery, taxi driving, the list is endless .......

So all better than working for Royal Donkey, in other words...The list 'is' actually endless and most jobs don't entail half the amount of stress being a RM driver does.

Good luck non-driver7.

[R@YAL F@IL]

I have the experience of an extra weeks holiday for a start

That may be so but the less 'senior' person
doesn't need the extra week due to the lack of energy they expended whilst sat in the van!

I sit in a van as well