Missorts

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Your not "allowed" any missorts - its not an allowance where you get so much for doing x amount.

However, just because your not allowed any missorts, it does not mean that you won't make mistakes, and that a decent manager (or even a bad one) should take that into account.

A few missorts is fine, as long as there is not a pattern. If there is it will be spotted.

[Indy]

a decent manager (or even a bad one) shouldn't take that into account.

Worse case scenario, what can they do? Wilful delay?

If its genuine missorts rather than can't be arsed to climb the stairs to deliver 1 item then any appeal would throw out any DOM 'punishment'

[fishtank]

a decent manager (or even a bad one) shouldn't take that into account.

Worse case scenario, what can they do? Wilful delay?

If its genuine missorts rather than can't be arsed to climb the stairs to deliver 1 item then any appeal would throw out any DOM 'punishment'

The most common cause of any conduct case involving missorts is attempted dishonesty.
Putting them in a box without endorsing them,re-introducing them to the IPS,taking them home and bringing them in the following day...missorting recorded deliveries is also a favourite.
If you're honest and follow procedure it's unlikely you'll face any charges.
What some members fail to realise is that they didn't invent these tricks.

[Indy]

a decent manager (or even a bad one) shouldn't take that into account.

Worse case scenario, what can they do? Wilful delay?

If its genuine missorts rather than can't be arsed to climb the stairs to deliver 1 item then any appeal would throw out any DOM 'punishment'

The most common cause of any conduct case involving missorts is attempted dishonesty.
Putting them in a box without endorsing them,re-introducing them to the IPS,taking them home and bringing them in the following day...missorting recorded deliveries is also a favourite.
If you're honest and follow procedure it's unlikely you'll face any charges.
What some members fail to realise is that they didn't invent these tricks.

Apart from the first one then fair enough. How would you endorse a missort? "Missort - 17/2/12" ?? I've always been told to deliver it which before our first revision was fair enough but now not sure I'd have the time.

[fishtank]

How would you endorse a missort? "Missort - 17/2/21" ?? .

Yes....it's that simple.
What you should do as an office is seek some guidance from your management team.
If they insist on the policy of delivering all missorts ask for it to be planned into the duty time.
If they are happy with you bringing a reasonable number of missorts back ask them how they would like them endorsed.
Never re-introduce un-endorsed mail into the system...it will bring IB down on top of you before you can say "failed the police entrance exam".

[taurus88]

If I have time left, I post missorts, whatever end of the delivery they're on.
If I don't have time, they go back.

[thecyclingexpostie]

had one today that was basically on the wrong walk, and right across town. i don't drive the van, so back it went and onto the correct frame. anything wrong with that?

[POSTMAN]

had one today that was basically on the wrong walk, and right across town. i don't drive the van, so back it went and onto the correct frame. anything wrong with that?

You have to be careful here,what you have done is you've dumped a letter on some guys frame,if a screw happens to see it the last guy on the frame could get busted for leaving it there.

What is best to do is,endorse it as a missort and put it in the IPS frame where the odds and sods/missorts go.

[Indy]

had one today that was basically on the wrong walk, and right across town. i don't drive the van, so back it went and onto the correct frame. anything wrong with that?

You have to be careful here,what you have done is you've dumped a letter on some guys frame,if a screw happens to see it the last guy on the frame could get busted for leaving it there.

What is best to do is,endorse it as a missort and put it in the IPS frame where the odds and sods/missorts go.

I have one of my roads that takes up about half a row PLUS about 4 shots on the row below. The week before last I missed these 4 slots (God knows how!) but came back after my delivery to see the post still in the slots and despite a number of managers about the place nothing was said!

[Pat Ostman]

had one today that was basically on the wrong walk, and right across town. i don't drive the van, so back it went and onto the correct frame. anything wrong with that?

You have to be careful here,what you have done is you've dumped a letter on some guys frame,if a screw happens to see it the last guy on the frame could get busted for leaving it there.

What is best to do is,endorse it as a missort and put it in the IPS frame where the odds and sods/missorts go.

I have one of my roads that takes up about half a row PLUS about 4 shots on the row below. The week before last I missed these 4 slots (God knows how!) but came back after my delivery to see the post still in the slots and despite a number of managers about the place nothing was said!

Depends on amount of frames and likelihood of retentions.

[baleout]

You have never had a missort for a town with a similar name with same street name ??!! Don't make me laugh !!

bringing mail back will get you sacked (has happened) so I'll take the few minutes it takes to deliver all missorts (not that I have many).

Wrong walk? Can your office bring that back?

Wrong City? Where do you draw the line?

How bad are you at sorting, I can understand putting a letter for the drive into the road but not for another walk..............let alone another town/city.

[Indy]

I wouldn't say that it was common but it is possible. When sorting to my frame I don't particularly look at anything more than "15 Malvern Terrace" Now by me getting it I assume its for me and not say London, or Bristol or one of maybe 100 other places in the UK that also have a 15 Malvern Terrace. If you had to think about looking at the postcode etc then it'd take all day to sort to your frame. As for missorts for other walks 99.9% of the time for me its where 2 items have stuck together either involving a polybag OR a very thin item.

[DGP1]

You have never had a missort for a town with a similar name with same street name ??!! Don't make me laugh !!

bringing mail back will get you sacked (has happened) so I'll take the few minutes it takes to deliver all missorts (not that I have many).

Wrong walk? Can your office bring that back?

Wrong City? Where do you draw the line?

How bad are you at sorting, I can understand putting a letter for the drive into the road but not for another walk..............let alone another town/city.

Never prepped one into my frame, I tend to look at the post before so it kind of helps............seems to me that people aren't very good at reading if the missorts are that bad.

[Pat Ostman]

You have never had a missort for a town with a similar name with same street name ??!! Don't make me laugh !!

bringing mail back will get you sacked (has happened) so I'll take the few minutes it takes to deliver all missorts (not that I have many).

Wrong walk? Can your office bring that back?

Wrong City? Where do you draw the line?

How bad are you at sorting, I can understand putting a letter for the drive into the road but not for another walk..............let alone another town/city.

Never prepped one into my frame, I tend to look at the post before so it kind of helps............seems to me that people aren't very good at reading if the missorts are that bad.

Never ONCE prepped a missort? If so, hats off to you as thats pretty impressive.

[DGP1]

You have never had a missort for a town with a similar name with same street name ??!! Don't make me laugh !!

bringing mail back will get you sacked (has happened) so I'll take the few minutes it takes to deliver all missorts (not that I have many).

Wrong walk? Can your office bring that back?

Wrong City? Where do you draw the line?

How bad are you at sorting, I can understand putting a letter for the drive into the road but not for another walk..............let alone another town/city.

Never prepped one into my frame, I tend to look at the post before so it kind of helps............seems to me that people aren't very good at reading if the missorts are that bad.

Never ONCE prepped a missort? If so, hats off to you as thats pretty impressive.

How can you prep something for another duty, unless it's stuck to another piece of mail then there really is no excuse