P&L - Do you take the van home?

Indy · Post by **Indy** » 15 Feb 2012, 18:10

I am utterly speechless.... that is absolutely outrageous!

I won't be driving for RM thats for certain!

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 15 Feb 2012, 18:12

most of the staff at ours take the van home, it saves on YOUR fuel costs, and you ARE covered for going to and from work. whatever you do though, under no circumstaces use it for your own use by running errands, going shopping etc,,,, they will have you for gross misconduct and you WILL be out of a job,

Indy · Post by **Indy** » 15 Feb 2012, 18:48

daveyeff wrote:under no circumstaces use it for your own use by running errands, going shopping etc,,,, they will have you for gross misconduct and you WILL be out of a job,

CORRECT..... a driver here was sacked for moving a settee on a sunday morning in an RM van. Went through all the appeals etc but stayed sacked.

fishtank · Post by **fishtank** » 15 Feb 2012, 18:51

Indy wrote:
daveyeff wrote:under no circumstaces use it for your own use by running errands, going shopping etc,,,, they will have you for gross misconduct and you WILL be out of a job,
CORRECT..... a driver here was sacked for moving a settee on a sunday morning in an RM van. Went through all the appeals etc but stayed sacked.

Same thing here.
It's almost impossible to come back from.
More chance of knocking out a line manager and getting away with it.

not me · Post by **not me** » 15 Feb 2012, 18:55

Indy wrote:
daveyeff wrote:under no circumstaces use it for your own use by running errands, going shopping etc,,,, they will have you for gross misconduct and you WILL be out of a job,
CORRECT..... a driver here was sacked for moving a settee on a sunday morning in an RM van. Went through all the appeals etc but stayed sacked.

they are fools to do it
I have seen RM vans out and about on bank holidays etc
drivers iout of uniform
all it takes is any manager to see them,not just one from their DO

Cheetah · Post by **Cheetah** » 15 Feb 2012, 19:45

Once again FT excellent post

....... The truth of the matter is when RM want something, local management fail to notify the persons doing them favours of their responsibilities and obligations, because they know if they did know no one would help them !!!!!, they want their cake and eat it..... I'm sure it was your good self who posted re. using your own car on delivery and attached that form RM should give to every employee to complete and send to their own insurance company...... Not ONE car user (around half the office) in our D/O has seen such a form or been advised of their responsibility to inform their own insurance company that they are using their car in writing

. Mind contradicting myself now not one of the idiots has stopped using their own transport

Post by **Lounge Lizard** » 15 Feb 2012, 22:06

So, it's fine to take the van home with the Authorised Retention of Official Royal Mail Vehicles & Powered Equipment Agreement.

It's rightly a sackable offence to then move a sofa in the van of a Bank Holiday weekend.

But what about attending a doctors or hospital appointment in the van during the working day with, or without, permission of your line manager ?

smelly_cat_lady · Post by **smelly_cat_lady** » 16 Feb 2012, 10:21

Why on earth would you want to take a van home anyway??! Yes, ok, you maybe insured to and fro and yes, under the agreement yadda yadda.......BUT what if it gets damaged outside your house - who is liable? What if it gets scratched on your drive by your 10 year old putting his scooter away?? What if your wife moves it to get her car out and accidentally scrapes it down the wall?? It's just not worth the hassle. I agree with a previous poster, if RM can't find somewhere to park their own vans then there's no hope.

Post by **Lounge Lizard** » 16 Feb 2012, 16:35

smelly_cat_lady wrote:Why on earth would you want to take a van home anyway??! Yes, ok, you maybe insured to and fro and yes, under the agreement yadda yadda.......BUT what if it gets damaged outside your house - who is liable? What if it gets scratched on your drive by your 10 year old putting his scooter away?? What if your wife moves it to get her car out and accidentally scrapes it down the wall?? It's just not worth the hassle. I agree with a previous poster, if RM can't find somewhere to park their own vans then there's no hope.

Why on earth would you want to pay your own petrol, depreciation, etc. to and from work when Royal Mail offer a van to take home ?

And if the 10 year old and wife can't take proper control of their scooter and car then there's no hope.

And it's hardly as if anyone would notice another scratch or two on the van.

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 16 Feb 2012, 17:16

it could get damaged ANYWHERE, on the estate you are delivering to, outside the office, outside a block of flats while you.re delivering. you might not even notice til later on. could,ve been damaged in the yard of you,re office and you didnt notice til you parked up at home, could of,,,,yadda yadda

fishtank · Post by **fishtank** » 16 Feb 2012, 17:24

There are pros and cons for taking a van home,it's up to each individual to weigh them up and decide for themselves but if i a manager hasn't followed the procedure to the letter...i wouldn't touch it with a bargepole.
That's just asking for trouble.

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