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Bully in the office
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Jimjimson
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Re: Bully in the office
The managers get a bonus around Xmas time for targets achieved
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hantsman
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Re: Bully in the office
They dont.
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keithposty
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Re: Bully in the office
ill be corrected if wrong but any bonus would be on an annual basis or linked to savings following a major office change
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noggin1969
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Re: Bully in the office
Ignore RM and go straight to the police , assault is assault and the manager will not be able to defend an individual against criminal proceedings and will also have some awkward questions to answer from the DSM
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Red Robbo
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Re: Bully in the office
Telephone this number 0800 5874777 Bullying & Harassment Help Line
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dvbuk55
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Re: Bully in the office
There is no longer a petty cash account in our office any expenditure has to go through the DSMs office. You tell them what it is you want, the cost and then they send you the money and they want a receipt for the goods. There used to be a bus money fund which could be manipulated slightly but not to any amount over a few quid to buy office supplies at short notice. There is also the surcharge account but that is now strictly controlled - so where is he getting the money from the "office kitty" - not a rich cat I presume.
His relationship with the manager is suspect and definitely deserves outside scrutiny. No one absolutely no one is irreplaceable - some people are good at what they do and perhaps go that extra mile - BUT if they dropped dead they would be replaced in the blink of an eye.
His relationship with the manager is suspect and definitely deserves outside scrutiny. No one absolutely no one is irreplaceable - some people are good at what they do and perhaps go that extra mile - BUT if they dropped dead they would be replaced in the blink of an eye.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Bully in the office
Personally this is the route I would advise taking.noggin1969 wrote:Ignore RM and go straight to the police , assault is assault and the manager will not be able to defend an individual against criminal proceedings and will also have some awkward questions to answer from the DSM
Despite the grandiose proclamations and the video, Royal Mail's commitment to tackling B&H on a local level is pathetic.
If the DOM isn't dealing with it, let the police.
Let the DOM explain to the DSM why the Old Bill are in the DO.
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spoodoo
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Re: Bully in the office
Bout time they came down hard on bullies big time.
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tiredm
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Re: Bully in the office
Film some of this creatures actions and then go to the police.Especially if he attacks someone like you mentioned.That's more than bullying it's assault.
Hell even attach a copy on email and send it to Moya, see what she has to say about it.
Hell even attach a copy on email and send it to Moya, see what she has to say about it.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Bully in the office
Until Royal Mail tackle the command managerial style prevalent throughout offices up and down the country, and recognise that managerial bullying does go on it won't change. In fact 1 simple message to give out that its unacceptable would be do a video about bullying that role plays a manager bullying a member of staff, that would indicate a change of mindset at least. At the moment all they recognise is Postie V Postie bullying and that is easily seen by the HYS surveys, videos and literature they pass out.spoodoo wrote:Bout time they came down hard on bullies big time.
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fishtank
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Re: Bully in the office
clashcityrocker wrote:Personally this is the route I would advise taking.noggin1969 wrote:Ignore RM and go straight to the police , assault is assault and the manager will not be able to defend an individual against criminal proceedings and will also have some awkward questions to answer from the DSM
Despite the grandiose proclamations and the video, Royal Mail's commitment to tackling B&H on a local level is pathetic.
If the DOM isn't dealing with it, let the police.
Let the DOM explain to the DSM why the Old Bill are in the DO.
As above.
Bullying is rife,accepted and in some cases applauded in Royal Mail.
Any attempt to tackle it individually is ridiculed.
Don't get me started about the union....
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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DB1100
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Re: Bully in the office
Just remember if you don't do anything about this,all the people who know about and do nothing are just as guilty as the bully.
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Cheetah
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Re: Bully in the office
DO NOT go to the manager as he is obviously complicit and will only give them time to cover their tracks...... Like people have said go down B&H procedure phoning the number quoted or even better/ as well as get evidence weather it be video or witnesses and go to the police, there may well be retributions from this vile character and the police will prevent that happening. There is also a number to inform anoinimously of mallpractice in the office, I would be onto them informing them of both money issues......
These people need to be stood up to within procedure, someone giving him a kicking is not the way and will help no one on this very serious issue...... Best of luck
These people need to be stood up to within procedure, someone giving him a kicking is not the way and will help no one on this very serious issue...... Best of luck
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brothermagrew
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Re: Bully in the office
In its simplistic form Royal Mail's often vaunted quote:
The line manager is responsible for the workplace, his or her team, and their health & safety.
Which suggests to me that the buck stops with them.
Employers who fail to tackle bullying are breaking the law. All employers have a legal duty under the Health and Safety at Work Act to ensure the health, safety and welfare of their employees. That includes protection from bullying and harassment at work. The Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations also require employers to assess the nature and the scale of workplace risks to health and safety, ensure there are proper control measures in place, and take action to remove or avoid these risks wherever possible as far is as reasonably practical.
The Health and Safety Executive also states that 'there should be systems in place to deal with interpersonal conflicts such as bullying and harassment'.
The Employment Rights Act 1996 allows employees to claim unfair dismissal if they are forced the leave their job because of actions by their employer or a failure to deal with any complaint. This can include failure by the employer to protect their employees from bullying and harassing behaviour. Often harassment is motivated by a workers sex, sexuality, race or disability and in these cases claim may also be able to be taken under the appropriate equality legislation. Causing a person harassment, alarm, or distress is also a criminal act and in certain circumstances the police can charge the harasser with a criminal offence. Also under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 victims of harassment can seek civil injunctions against behaviour, which causes distress.
However the priority for trade unions must be to prevent people being bullied in the first place. That means trying to eliminate it from the workplace. To do that it is important to focus on the bullying behaviour rather than the bullies themselves. This recognises that some people who bully do not do so knowingly, but specifically reflect a culture that is being allowed to develop within the workplace.
It is important that all managers are trained on what may constitute bullying, identifying it, and the employers procedures. They should also be made aware of their responsibilities in preventing or eliminating bullying.
The line manager is responsible for the workplace, his or her team, and their health & safety.
Which suggests to me that the buck stops with them.
Employers who fail to tackle bullying are breaking the law. All employers have a legal duty under the Health and Safety at Work Act to ensure the health, safety and welfare of their employees. That includes protection from bullying and harassment at work. The Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations also require employers to assess the nature and the scale of workplace risks to health and safety, ensure there are proper control measures in place, and take action to remove or avoid these risks wherever possible as far is as reasonably practical.
The Health and Safety Executive also states that 'there should be systems in place to deal with interpersonal conflicts such as bullying and harassment'.
The Employment Rights Act 1996 allows employees to claim unfair dismissal if they are forced the leave their job because of actions by their employer or a failure to deal with any complaint. This can include failure by the employer to protect their employees from bullying and harassing behaviour. Often harassment is motivated by a workers sex, sexuality, race or disability and in these cases claim may also be able to be taken under the appropriate equality legislation. Causing a person harassment, alarm, or distress is also a criminal act and in certain circumstances the police can charge the harasser with a criminal offence. Also under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 victims of harassment can seek civil injunctions against behaviour, which causes distress.
However the priority for trade unions must be to prevent people being bullied in the first place. That means trying to eliminate it from the workplace. To do that it is important to focus on the bullying behaviour rather than the bullies themselves. This recognises that some people who bully do not do so knowingly, but specifically reflect a culture that is being allowed to develop within the workplace.
It is important that all managers are trained on what may constitute bullying, identifying it, and the employers procedures. They should also be made aware of their responsibilities in preventing or eliminating bullying.
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spoodoo
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Re: Bully in the office
A bully.... someone with a huge ego ,who for some reason thinks hes above everyone else .Hes also a coward ,a control freak and has lots of problems with himself ,,,,an embarrassment of a human being.