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P & L repicks.
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obscurityknocks
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P & L repicks.
How have offices done a repick when implementing park and loop. Heard a few different ways it has been done and was wandering if its something agreed at a local level with members or is their a national guideline. My main concern is if it doesnt use seniority from start to finish it could enable favouritism amoungst weaker offices.
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comeracing
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Re: P & L repicks.
it has to be seniorityobscurityknocks wrote:How have offices done a repick when implementing park and loop. Heard a few different ways it has been done and was wandering if its something agreed at a local level with members or is their a national guideline. My main concern is if it doesnt use seniority from start to finish it could enable favouritism amoungst weaker offices.
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fishtank
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Re: P & L repicks.
Allocating people to duties and equipment
The delivery revisions process will produce a new duty set with new routes, methods and equipment. The Way Forward Agreement (Appendix 2) explains how and when a re-pick of duties should be used (resourcing jobs during major change). Because a delivery method will be prescribed for each route in the office, for Delivery Methods revisions, re-picks assume greater significance. Re-picks give the opportunity for people to select a duty that uses the equipment they prefer.
The following headline principles should be applied to your re-pick (but for fuller guidance, consult the Delivery Methods Repick Guidance paper, available in phase four of the Delivery Revisions Process online:
1. Staff will need to be trained on the equipment they will be using
2. Duties should be divided between driving and non-driving duties
3. In line with existing guidelines seniority applies to duty allocation. The only exception to this will be where it has been agreed that there are personal circumstances that need to be taken into account. For example people with a disability need to be offered suitable duties. (See section 16.4 para 3 of Ways of Working within Way Forward Agreement and Section 2.2 in Resourcing Jobs as a result of Major Change)
4. Driving duties will be restricted to existing and volunteer new drivers and non-driving duties will be restricted to non-drivers
5. A driver is needed for every shared van pair. Only one non-driver can pick into a shared van duty pair
6. Non-driving shared van partners should be restricted to 50% or less of the total number of shared van partners. The exact ratio will be determined by you, but the balance you must strike is between creating a duty set:
a. With enough options to match your peoples’ skills
b. With enough flexibility to give you adequate cover in cases of people failure and unplanned absence
7. The non-driving duties can be allocated to any of the shared vans, up to the agreed ratio
8. The cover and the leave reserve duties need to adequately cover the driving requirements of the shared van duty to ensure that the van can be taken out each day
You need to understand the driving requirements and be confident in having sufficient drivers at the planning stage
The delivery revisions process will produce a new duty set with new routes, methods and equipment. The Way Forward Agreement (Appendix 2) explains how and when a re-pick of duties should be used (resourcing jobs during major change). Because a delivery method will be prescribed for each route in the office, for Delivery Methods revisions, re-picks assume greater significance. Re-picks give the opportunity for people to select a duty that uses the equipment they prefer.
The following headline principles should be applied to your re-pick (but for fuller guidance, consult the Delivery Methods Repick Guidance paper, available in phase four of the Delivery Revisions Process online:
1. Staff will need to be trained on the equipment they will be using
2. Duties should be divided between driving and non-driving duties
3. In line with existing guidelines seniority applies to duty allocation. The only exception to this will be where it has been agreed that there are personal circumstances that need to be taken into account. For example people with a disability need to be offered suitable duties. (See section 16.4 para 3 of Ways of Working within Way Forward Agreement and Section 2.2 in Resourcing Jobs as a result of Major Change)
4. Driving duties will be restricted to existing and volunteer new drivers and non-driving duties will be restricted to non-drivers
5. A driver is needed for every shared van pair. Only one non-driver can pick into a shared van duty pair
6. Non-driving shared van partners should be restricted to 50% or less of the total number of shared van partners. The exact ratio will be determined by you, but the balance you must strike is between creating a duty set:
a. With enough options to match your peoples’ skills
b. With enough flexibility to give you adequate cover in cases of people failure and unplanned absence
7. The non-driving duties can be allocated to any of the shared vans, up to the agreed ratio
8. The cover and the leave reserve duties need to adequately cover the driving requirements of the shared van duty to ensure that the van can be taken out each day
You need to understand the driving requirements and be confident in having sufficient drivers at the planning stage
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obscurityknocks
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Re: P & L repicks.
There was talk of drivers choosing partners and then combining there seniority to choose deliveries.comeracing wrote:it has to be seniorityobscurityknocks wrote:How have offices done a repick when implementing park and loop. Heard a few different ways it has been done and was wandering if its something agreed at a local level with members or is their a national guideline. My main concern is if it doesnt use seniority from start to finish it could enable favouritism amoungst weaker offices.
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peterloo
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Re: P & L repicks.
Thats called a Buddy system it was thrown out in our office because the old guard felt it watered down seniority which may in esscence be true but now they have realised they wont have much control over who partners them because they pick first. I know the buddy system has been used in some offices but it is very much unchartered waters. This is a brief explanation of how it works that we put out for our members at the time of the vote.
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wheresourmoney
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Re: P & L repicks.
we have just started our p&L and we had all the rumours about drivers picking who they wanted but when it came down to it it was done on seniority
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feduppostie
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Re: P & L repicks.
we used senoirity but with the added option that if a more senior person wanted to choose who they worked with then they gave up their seniority until it reached the person they wanted to work with and then they picked together
that way if you were more bothered about what round you got than who you worked with you got your choice
but if you were more worried about who you worked with you took the gamble about what round you would both get, but got to work with the person of your choosing
worked well really
that way if you were more bothered about what round you got than who you worked with you got your choice
but if you were more worried about who you worked with you took the gamble about what round you would both get, but got to work with the person of your choosing
worked well really
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scooby40
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Re: P & L repicks.
SENIORITY top to bottom is the only way you should be doing it, just have to be carefull you don't end up with non drivers left at the bottom of the list to pick up duties that require a driver !!!