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17th September start times

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Carnoustie
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Post by Carnoustie »

L Tommo wrote:Right Carnoustie DONT f***ing GET PERSONAL WITH ME !!!

Right.. Im saying if people come in on there NORMAL time... IE the time we come in now before the change..... Then RM will love it.... But the issue is at the end of the duty... After the finishing time when if doing a full day, RM will still want another hour as the later finishing times.. I understand the front of Keeping the working practise but this is for the CWU HQ to come with something enmass... Guildance... So my point is at the end when cutting off as RM will see it an hour early they will doo people for abandonment of duty or willfull delay... Papers ensue.

So IF everybody done this... Then how would RM paper everyone in your office???? Force there hand... Thats all im saying... FECK EM!!!

If HQ dont come up with a solution to this farce then direct action is needed... If anyone who doesnt agree with me im all ears how to combat RM and the later starts.... As for personal shite.... IF CARNOUSTIE was face to face i would like him to say it then... Not hide behind a fecking screen... CYBER TWAT... Ive never been personal witha postie as its not my way... SLAGGING RM AND SCREWS Is my point... Not in fighting!!
Oh apart from Margie as he was a loon....
OUT :neutral:

L Tommo, my post about early / late starts that you were offended by was meant to be a tongue-in-cheek play on words. I apologise if you thought it was a personal attack. If you read my previous posts, I have been - and still am - 100% behind the strike and 100% opposed to ANY form of Executive Action by RM !!!!!!!! For example, in the same thread as my jokey post, I said

Surely if they haven't given you formal written notice of a fundemental change to your employment contract, i.e change of duty times, you carry on attending at your contracted times ?? How can you be said to be abandoning your duty if you go home at your contracted time ?????

So you can see, I agree with you on the issue of not coming in at the 'new' start times. We have every legal right to carry on attending at our current times ! Until we have had formal notice, individually, in writing of an alteration to our contracted hours, they CANNOT sack you for going home at your current start time, so long as you came in at your current start time. Unfair dismissal tribunals would rip RM to pieces, attempting to sack someone for working as stipulated in their contract. It's a typical management bullsh!t tactic to scare people into believing they MUST start later or face the sack. Utter bollox, RM. They know this, they just hope the lemmings are to scared to stand up for themselves. Well, as usual, THEY ARE WRONG
goinpostal
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Post by goinpostal »

my dom said that they would have to give us a month's notice of start time changes in the office before any changes, is that right?
lovejoy
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Post by lovejoy »

goinpostal wrote:my dom said that they would have to give us a month's notice of start time changes in the office before any changes, is that right?
yes mate. But they are trying to pick off weaker offices so make sure rep is on the ball
zaveroni
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Post by zaveroni »

GREYHOUNDS AND EARLY BIRDS !!!!!!!!!! HA HA THAT'S a great way to describe these chumps
the early bird catches the worm ... or is it the bosses cock ???!!!
We have several greyhounds in our office they have all been fitted with a pair of white trainers and carry sports drinks in their bum-bags !!!!!!!

NO TO LATE STARTS ---------- GIVE YOUR MANAGERS A HARD TIME , MAKE THEM EARN THEIR 6,000 GRAND BONUSES !!!!
:cfo AND A BIG :lfo
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zaveroni
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Post by zaveroni »

I MEANT NO TO LATE STARTS !!! HA SORRY BROTHERS !!!!
STILL A BIG :lfo AND AN EVEN BIGGER :cfo
staffmail
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8th October 2007

Post by staffmail »

Looks like the 8 October is the new date for 06:15 starts. Letters being sent out Thursday.
marky
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SEPT 17.

Post by marky »

I FEEL WE ALL HAVE BEEN LET DOWN BY HQ AND THE TALKS, royal mail SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOLD NO TALKS UNTIL THE THREAT OF E,ACTION ON THE START TIME WAS LIFTED. THIS WAS NOT DONE SO NOW WE ARE ALL UP s**t CREEK COME MONDAY UNLESS HQ HAVE A TRICK OR TWO UP THEIR SLEAVE.

OFFICES OVER HERE HAVE ASKED FOR BALLOTS AND WHERE TOLD BY ARE NEW BRANCH SEC WE WOULD GET A BRANCH BALLOT. BUT GUESS WHAT WHERES ARE NEW BRANCH SEC PAT OHARA AND ARE BALLOT...
WELL PAT IS LIVING IT LARGE IN BRIGHTON OR IS IT LONDON.. AND ARE BALLOT IS NO WHERE TO BE SEEN..

LOOKS LIKE A WALK OUT THEN COME MONDAY......
rmld.....
lovejoy
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Re: 8th October 2007

Post by lovejoy »

staffmail wrote:Looks like the 8 October is the new date for 06:15 starts. Letters being sent out Thursday.
Plenty of strike time between now and then
The Inspector
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Re: 8th October 2007

Post by The Inspector »

staffmail wrote:Looks like the 8 October is the new date for 06:15 starts. Letters being sent out Thursday.
This is what they WANT to happen. I have just been informed - that at a meeting tomorrow - my members will be informed of above. R.M. want walk outs & unofficial action - keep yr cool. I am informed that HQ - will tell us what to do - next week!!!
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marky
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OCT 8TH

Post by marky »

STAFFMAIL WHERE DID YOU GET THAT INFO FROM AND IS IT TRUE, M8
rmld.....
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OCT 8TH

Post by marky »

NEXT WEEK THAT WE BE A LOT OF USE COME MONDAY.
rmld.....
staffmail
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It's true

Post by staffmail »

Managers are briefing us in delivery tomorrow morning.
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Re: It's true

Post by The Inspector »

staffmail wrote:Managers are briefing us in delivery tomorrow morning.
This is correct - I can catagorically confirm this!

and it happened here in West Yorkshire
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Post by marky »

THANKS LADS. NICE 1
rmld.....
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Post by doveston »

The Inspector wrote:
Carnoustie wrote:
doveston wrote:and managment turn aroundand say your normal working times have changed.you finish at your normal time you will be done for abandoning your duty.
Surely if they haven't given you formal written notice of a fundemental change to your employment contract, i.e change of duty times, you carry on attending at your contracted times ?? How can you be said to be abandoning your duty if you go home at your contracted time ????? :shock:
You're bang on - matey. I cannot understand why HQ - are not stressing this. RM wanted to give prior notice - 4 weeks before & leading up to - the 17th Sep. This was deemed to be 'Excecutive Action'. No 4 weeks notice - then not 'lawful'!
y'see i didn't know we needed 4 weeks notice, i just didn't want anyone dropped in it.we all no how screws work and what i said is exactally what they would be trying on