box_shana wrote:
Yes I would consider it a waste of time delivering, just as I think its a waste of time reading it when i get it myself. How come governments try to shut down the big spam syndicates of the world, yet think its ok to let their own postal service do exactly the same thing, except that paper spam has a larger negative effect on the environment with the amount of paper wasted.
Anyway if the population were polled, I would hazard a guess that 99% would say ban the d2d along with any other spam mail.
And the same 99% would be thinking it outrageous when the postal service goes under and their left with having to pay pounds rather than pence to send a letter.
Plus any company that use to use RM would end up having to use much more expensive private firms who in turn would end up increasing their prices due to not being able to bump up their profits using RM to perform the "final mile" deliveries through DSA. And who would those costs get passed onto - the customer.
D2D's are like the adverts on TV - without them you get the BBC and the license fee. Plus a lot of spam syndicates are generally working on behalf of scammers.
box_shana wrote:
Yes I would consider it a waste of time delivering, just as I think its a waste of time reading it when i get it myself. How come governments try to shut down the big spam syndicates of the world, yet think its ok to let their own postal service do exactly the same thing, except that paper spam has a larger negative effect on the environment with the amount of paper wasted.
Anyway if the population were polled, I would hazard a guess that 99% would say ban the d2d along with any other spam mail.
And the same 99% would be thinking it outrageous when the postal service goes under and their left with having to pay pounds rather than pence to send a letter.
Plus any company that use to use RM would end up having to use much more expensive private firms who in turn would end up increasing their prices due to not being able to bump up their profits using RM to perform the "final mile" deliveries through DSA. And who would those costs get passed onto - the customer.
D2D's are like the adverts on TV - without them you get the BBC and the license fee. Plus a lot of spam syndicates are generally working on behalf of scammers.
Not sure this thinking follows really. There is no reason why we can't have a fully funded public service that doesn't need to rely on delivering junk to break even and maintain full time jobs. Something like this still exists in other countries. Stop Junk Mail claims RM is the only postal company in the world that tells its workers to ignore 'No Junk Mail' stickers on doors. That is how far the 'service' has regressed.
There is simply a lack of political will for this sort of model currently. Instead, the thing has been engineered to fail. Competition has been introduced that isn't really competition and aims to undermine the traditional monopoly provider. In turn, RM has to be up the ante and doing everything it can to keep up. Which includes increasing junk mail. Given this is the case, we are under no obligation to swallow the arguments from RM and the government on this issue.
You must understand that I am here purely as A BEARER OF MESSAGES.
When you get the boxes of d2ds at the DO in the boxes are they in bundles by walk (say a d2d was for a fast-food place, each bundle of it would be the number of delivery points on a given walk)?
SpacePhoenix wrote:When you get the boxes of d2ds at the DO in the boxes are they in bundles by walk (say a d2d was for a fast-food place, each bundle of it would be the number of delivery points on a given walk)?
Yes, they come down labeled 'duty 1/2/3 etc.' with the correct number ( ) of D2Ds in them.
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SpacePhoenix wrote:When you get the boxes of d2ds at the DO in the boxes are they in bundles by walk (say a d2d was for a fast-food place, each bundle of it would be the number of delivery points on a given walk)?
Yes, they come down labeled 'duty 1/2/3 etc.' with the correct number ( ) of D2Ds in them.
Don't the DOMs offer overtime for someone to prep them and throw them off into the delivery frame for all the walks?
SpacePhoenix wrote:When you get the boxes of d2ds at the DO in the boxes are they in bundles by walk (say a d2d was for a fast-food place, each bundle of it would be the number of delivery points on a given walk)?
Yes, they come down labeled 'duty 1/2/3 etc.' with the correct number ( ) of D2Ds in them.
Don't the DOMs offer overtime for someone to prep them and throw them off into the delivery frame for all the walks?
No, why would they, it's the duty holder who is responsible to prep and deliver them for that day.............and if they are going to run out of time them cut off part of the delivery.
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Householders will have more control to stop the tonnes of unwanted advertising mail that drops through peoples’ letter boxes each year, Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman announced today.
A new free-to-use website is being set-up as part of a joint Defra and direct marketing industry deal so householders can opt-out of receiving all types of advertising mail. This replaces the current out-dated system, where households have to register on three separate websites or apply by post to stop the different types of unwanted direct mail from being delivered.
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By 2014, the amount of unwanted direct mail hitting door mats will fall significantly through the marketing industry increasing its current use of suppression lists – which includes opt-out, do not contact and gone-away lists – by 25 per cent
I still stand by the view that there should be an assumed opt-out but this is real progress. Credit where credit is due to the government, even if I despise their wider agenda.
You must understand that I am here purely as A BEARER OF MESSAGES.
If the figures put into their wonderful applications truely represented the typical delivery span and the allocated contracts to go with them, rather than expecting "flexing up" on a massive scale Weds-Fri and during both Xmas and end of tax year periods, then jobs would go...
But do the contracts (especially PT) at your depot truely represent the time to often finish prepping (including D2D which is often ommitted from IWT according to forum members); killing deads; sorting out specials/recorded; bundling up (including bag drop mail if neccessary); paid entitled meal relief (including extra for going past 5/7/9/11/13 hours); delivery; replinishment (collecting bag drop sacks and then putting contained items in order of delivery); toilet break; sorting out undelivered items back at the depot after deliver?
I don't mind delivering them but wish there was some minimum specification imposed by RM to stop Co-op sending out those awful huge floppy leaflets that wont go through the door and Sky sending Christmas tree shaped cards covered in glitter that gets everywhere.