FED UP WITH LOSING MONEY?

Wild Cat · Post by **Wild Cat** » 10 Sep 2007, 23:26

If you've taken part in all four strikes then you've
lost at least 240 pounds,plus allowances plus overtime,
with no opportunity to make up the money.

If the reason stopping you from working is concern over
crossing the picket line then we can help:

We will provide a safe environment for you to
work in.
You can work at another office where you are
not known.
You can wear plain clothes,so that no one
identifies you as a postal worker.
We will help you get through any picket line,
including taking you in by van or providing a
managerial escort.

For more information contact you Manager:

What have you got to lose?(End of letter)

Did anyone else get a letter like this?

It makes you wonder how strong the strike really was.

We need to have eyes and ears about next time to
SPOT THE strike breakers

Fluke · Post by **Fluke** » 11 Sep 2007, 07:22

It sounds like a desperate plea for more strike breakers.

Which in turn means they didn't have enough in the first place, or they wouldn't have to advertise for them.

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 11 Sep 2007, 08:34

I got one of those letters (it was left at my frame) I just tore it up and threw it in the bin, I'd rather lose my job than join the ranks on the spineless morons who scab (shootings to good for them and I know people who would do it

).

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 11 Sep 2007, 08:48

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:I got one of those letters (it was left at my frame) I just tore it up and threw it in the bin, I'd rather lose my job than join the ranks on the spineless morons who scab (shootings to good for them and I know people who would do it ).

You're just cross cos your DOM stopped giving you relief

jackdaw · Post by **jackdaw** » 11 Sep 2007, 09:09

I supported the strikes tho I disagree with them (I've always thought WTR should've been tried first) but I know people who just could not afford to lose the money. When you have a mortgage, kids to feed and bills to pay you have to prioritise and if you have to carry on working you don't deserve to be labelled scab and given abuse for it. There was one such person in Swansea, a single mum working school friendly hours, she crossed and I support her actions because she put her children first.

If we are going to win this fight we need to stop the morons coming in early and also stop using our cars.

In my opinion both these things, specially the day after a strike, are as bad or worse than scabbing as they do as much if not more (because of the large numbers that do it) to damage the strike as anything else.

Stormproof · Post by **Stormproof** » 11 Sep 2007, 09:31

jackdaw wrote:I supported the strikes tho I disagree with them (I've always thought WTR should've been tried first) but I know people who just could not afford to lose the money. When you have a mortgage, kids to feed and bills to pay you have to prioritise and if you have to carry on working you don't deserve to be labelled scab and given abuse for it. There was one such person in Swansea, a single mum working school friendly hours, she crossed and I support her actions because she put her children first.

If we are going to win this fight we need to stop the morons coming in early and also stop using our cars.

In my opinion both these things, specially the day after a strike, are as bad or worse than scabbing as they do as much if not more (because of the large numbers that do it) to damage the strike as anything else.

Everybody has bills to pay, I'm a single parent of 2, the government messed up my tax credits so I get nothing, I get Â£2.50 per week child maintenance off my ex, I work 40 hours, nobody can afford to loose money I stand on the picket line with my colleagues, I don't want to see my working conditions going down the pan.

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 11 Sep 2007, 09:59

We have a similar prob with strike breakers, the usual plea for understanding, so sorry i just can't afford to strike. During the rolling action Scab 1 turned up in a new 4x4, Scab 2 let slip about his new conservatory,Scab 3 proudly boasted of the virtues of his new Â£1500 camera lens. Scab is a scab is a scab, do they think they'll be better off with the RM changes, or do they want the rest of us to subsidise them.

Seriously thinking of having a collection bucket for the Scab Hardship Fund on the next picket line. Wonder what size container i'll need

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 11 Sep 2007, 10:51

BELIAL wrote:We have a similar prob with strike breakers, the usual plea for understanding, so sorry i just can't afford to strike. During the rolling action Scab 1 turned up in a new 4x4, Scab 2 let slip about his new conservatory,Scab 3 proudly boasted of the virtues of his new Â£1500 camera lens. Scab is a scab is a scab, do they think they'll be better off with the RM changes, or do they want the rest of us to subsidise them.

Seriously thinking of having a collection bucket for the Scab Hardship Fund on the next picket line. Wonder what size container i'll need

You'd be better off with a piss bucket

Post by **barkersboy** » 11 Sep 2007, 11:00

In my office there are posties who are really suffering when on strike but they support us. The very few strike breakers we had were those very people who have full time jobs elsewhere or have other incomes (that really bugs me). Then there is the unlimited overtime which can be taken to make up for the days wages lost. In fact our office was clear in 3days after all the O/T and casuals had been in. So I do have regards for people who need the money but I cant find excuses for them when they have the opportunity to make good.

Post by **dvbuk55** » 11 Sep 2007, 12:10

Everybody has bills to pay, I'm a single parent of 2, the government messed up my tax credits so I get nothing, I get Â£2.50 per week child maintenance off my ex, I work 40 hours, nobody can afford to loose money I stand on the picket line with my colleagues, I don't want to see my working conditions going down the pan.

Bravo -

I'm sorry that you need to go on strike especially coming up to Christmas - and yes it really isn't that far away but please be assured you are doing the right thing.

jackdaw · Post by **jackdaw** » 11 Sep 2007, 14:29

BELIAL, my plea for understanding was'nt for me, it was for those who, and believe it or not they do exist, simply cannot strike. I was there on the picket line with my colleagues but I do recognise that there are those who already struggle to survive. To take an attitude that we should all be out and those that don't are strike breakers and treated with contempt without knowing an individuals circumstances is just ignorant. Remember, part of the reason we are where we are is not because of those who want to work, it's because far too many want full time pay for doing as little as possible, this is why management think we can cut thousands of jobs.
like I said more damage is done to our cause by those who always come in early, use their own cars and don't book pro delivery or cut off at their finish time. If we did our jobs properly we would'nt be in this position.

meweavy · Post by **meweavy** » 11 Sep 2007, 14:34

BELIAL wrote:We have a similar prob with strike breakers, the usual plea for understanding, so sorry i just can't afford to strike. During the rolling action Scab 1 turned up in a new 4x4, Scab 2 let slip about his new conservatory,Scab 3 proudly boasted of the virtues of his new Â£1500 camera lens. Scab is a scab is a scab, do they think they'll be better off with the RM changes, or do they want the rest of us to subsidise them.

Seriously thinking of having a collection bucket for the Scab Hardship Fund on the next picket line. Wonder what size container i'll need

thats the problem in our office,all thier excuse is "i cant afford to strike"then the minute they hear of later starts means no morning allowance,door to doors payments could be stopped they bitch and moan..its hard to keep youreself from getting the sack for assault.

but the sad thing is they dont seem to understand that if we lose this strike they will lose a s**t load more than 1 less days pay for striking..

Post by **dvbuk55** » 11 Sep 2007, 14:36

jackdaw wrote:BELIAL, my plea for understanding was'nt for me, it was for those who, and believe it or not they do exist, simply cannot strike. I was there on the picket line with my colleagues but I do recognise that there are those who already struggle to survive. To take an attitude that we should all be out and those that don't are strike breakers and treated with contempt without knowing an individuals circumstances is just ignorant. Remember, part of the reason we are where we are is not because of those who want to work, it's because far too many want full time pay for doing as little as possible, this is why management think we can cut thousands of jobs.
like I said more damage is done to our cause by those who always come in early, use their own cars and don't book pro delivery or cut off at their finish time. If we did our jobs properly we would'nt be in this position.

There is NO excuse - many are finding it difficult but sacrifices have to be made. We wouldn't be in the position to take this action had it not been for those who went before us. It would be to our everlasting shame if we reneged on the sacrifices they made.

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 11 Sep 2007, 14:50

Might get some of these printed up

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 11 Sep 2007, 15:01

jackdaw wrote:BELIAL, my plea for understanding was'nt for me, it was for those who, and believe it or not they do exist, simply cannot strike. I was there on the picket line with my colleagues but I do recognise that there are those who already struggle to survive. To take an attitude that we should all be out and those that don't are strike breakers and treated with contempt without knowing an individuals circumstances is just ignorant. Remember, part of the reason we are where we are is not because of those who want to work, it's because far too many want full time pay for doing as little as possible, this is why management think we can cut thousands of jobs.
like I said more damage is done to our cause by those who always come in early, use their own cars and don't book pro delivery or cut off at their finish time. If we did our jobs properly we would'nt be in this position.

I understood what you meant and obviously i cannot speak for others, but I'm already stuggling to survive. I do however understand the meaning of solidarity and no amount of hardship will make me sell my soul and stab my fellow workers in the back after their democratic vote for action. Damm sure i,m never going to let them forget what they've done, but if that upsets them, well it's called guilt.

As for cut offs and cars ,well yes,but do you honestly believe that would prevent Crozier implementing any of his cost cutting plans,can't see it myself, it's why he's there.