The 'Royal Mails Pay offer 2007' thread.

539 · Post by **539** » 03 May 2007, 18:50

Dear Colleagues,

Negotiations on Royal Mail Letters Pay and the Future of the Company Royal Mail Make New Offer: A meeting was held today with Royal Mail and a revised offer was made of 2.5% on basic pay, overtime, SA, and all allowances. Royal Mail have also stated that they wish to retain within the offer the option of a Â£600 lump-sum as an alternative to the basic pay increase.

The 2.5% has now been offered to engineering and MDEC grades. Royal Mail are still refusing to make any offer for admin grades and have stated that they now wish to include all admin workers, across the whole of the group, in one set of pay negotiations. The Union has informed Royal Mail that making no offer for admin grades is completely unacceptable.

It is important that branches understand the offer remains conditional on the following elements:

* A savings and flexibility package along similar lines to that which has been previously published.

* An Efficiency Scheme as per the previous proposal.

* A commitment to further negotiations on Pay and The Future to be timetabled over the next 6 months.

Royal Mail has told the Union that this is their full and final offer.

The Union's Response: We have told Royal Mail that the Postal Executive will be meeting next week to consider their offer. Subsequently, the Union will be holding a joint Divisional / Postal Executive meeting in order to gain feedback before the Postal Executive make any further decisions. We are awaiting a full draft that will accompany the offer.

In anticipation of Royal Mail's intention to communicate the full proposal, we will send this out to branches as soon as possible.

National Industrial Action Ballot Timetable: We have received a number of enquiries stating that the Industrial Action Ballot timetable has been leaked in some offices. For the purpose of complete clarity the timetable agreed by the Executive Council is as follows:
Serve Notice on Tuesday 15th May
Despatch Ballot papers on Tuesday 22nd May

Result declared Thursday 7th June

PHANTOM SHARES: Following separate discussions with Royal Mail, the Union has also received a formal proposal on how the so-called "Phantom Shares Scheme" might operate. Royal Mail has stated that some elements of the Scheme are negotiable and that they would like to reach agreement with the CWU in the very near future. The Union has responded to Royal Mail's proposal and we are awaiting further discussions. Further developments will be reported in due course.

Yours sincerely, Kevin SlocombeHead of Communications

539 · Post by **539** » 03 May 2007, 18:51

Should start some debate.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 03 May 2007, 19:27

Negotiations on Royal Mail Letters Pay and the Future of the Company Royal Mail Make New Offer: A meeting was held today with Royal Mail and a revised offer was made of 2.5% on basic pay, overtime, SA, and all allowances. Royal Mail have also stated that they wish to retain within the offer the option of a Â£600 lump-sum as an alternative to the basic pay increase.

Maybe it's because i'm tired but that has lost me,i understand the 2.5% bit but what's the other bit in there for.

539 · Post by **539** » 03 May 2007, 19:58

It looks to me as if they want people to have the option of either a 2.5% rise or a one off lump instead of the usual yes or no vote on a percentage rise.

mailman · Post by **mailman** » 03 May 2007, 20:36

So now they have offered 2.5% on basic pay, allowances.SA. and overtime.
Well thats fine but with the efficiency savings that they want agreement on
there will be no overtime or SA to get the 2.5% increase .

johnnyp · Post by **johnnyp** » 03 May 2007, 20:47

I dont like the look of this.There are to many strings which will leave us well and truly hung out to dry.

L Tommo · Post by **L Tommo** » 03 May 2007, 23:50

CUT THE STRINGS NOW,, DONT GET CAUGHT UP IN THEM AND BACKED IN A CORNER!!! mark these words if this is agreed upon???

Q emoticon of Nana cutting something!!!

out

Dont let the puppetmasters pull our strings!!! and make us dance to there tune!!!RM STRINGS + 30 PIECES OF SILVER =

= PISSED OFF POSTIES!!

Post by **de-coded** » 04 May 2007, 00:16

Inflation is at an all time high of 4.1% and they offer 2.5%, have a thought for MDEC staff who would get a whole Â£7 a week payrise. We are not inline to choose a Â£600 lump sum.

Bring on a ballot, they can run and jump if they think i will be in that day

Post by **POSTMAN** » 04 May 2007, 14:24

Talks were held between Royal Mail and CWU yesterday around the 2007 pay negotiations and the future of Royal Mail.

At the meeting Royal Mail tabled an offer that they described as their â€œfull and final offerâ€

Post by **POSTMAN** » 04 May 2007, 14:26

Moved this into Blue Shirts and Cemented it.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 04 May 2007, 15:50

So one thing they are trying to do is sneak the later start times past us which the union has already says it wants to get a seperate national agreement on it. That will be a NO vote for the deal from me then.

Also unless they say exactly what "New summer schedules" is that also makes me say NO to the deal. I am guessing this is the 6 into 5 walks thing. Although if they are increasing the doors to doors to 4 which means effectively 80% delivery daily on every walk + 1/5 which is 20% of another walk - so its 100% delivery every day. Will georoute (which is set at 89%) then redo the walks so we can actually do that within the time.

Sorry cant see that working.

Mr. Auburger · Post by **Mr. Auburger** » 04 May 2007, 16:36

Royal mails original plan was to have summer lapsing for 12 weeks ........However , once it has been implemented , you can be sure that Alan leighton will decree that due to the effects of global warming - Brittish summertime now last ALL YEAR ROUND !

ROCKY · Post by **ROCKY** » 04 May 2007, 19:17

our brief today,up to 5 lots of d2d get paid for three of them,
option 1 lump sum
option 2 2.5per cent plus lump sum up to 600 quid,no lower level mentioned,starting times move up 1 hour,covering walks binned because our office is close to the bone on hours,bet that gets changed if we agree,small hints to vote for this from gaffer he even smiled

had to laugh at the smiles on some of the faces around me,need to get some off them to wake up and get on the site,only two of us from my office on hear so far

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 04 May 2007, 19:42

ROCKY wrote:our brief today,up to 5 lots of d2d get paid for three of them,
option 1 lump sum
option 2 2.5per cent plus lump sum up to 600 quid,no lower level mentioned,starting times move up 1 hour,covering walks binned because our office is close to the bone on hours,bet that gets changed if we agree,small hints to vote for this from gaffer he even smiled

had to laugh at the smiles on some of the faces around me,need to get some off them to wake up and get on the site,only two of us from my office on hear so far

Thats our rep for you he has ruined the union in our office Rocky.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 04 May 2007, 20:00

Rocky,hope the missus aint planning on a spending spree!!
Its,well what we were told is,2.5per cent OR lump sum up to 600.

Just the 2 options.

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