Allowed them to re-group and order new tanks

[stephen500]

I know the union went into talks with the best of intentions and really didn't have much choice when they said that they would respond to a period of calm.
But that said i can't help having the feeling that the union have been set up by two sharp operators.
First, Royal Mail has had breathing space to recruit casuals and they have done!
Second, They have cleared the back log.
Third, Probally many managers have been trained on how to drive 740s!
Fourth, aside from the commited on this forum their will be many in the union who will not have the stomach to continue action and its a good job that the union does not require a re-ballot now.
So where do we go from here?
Well we have to start the pressure from cold and build up a head of steam again.
Fortunalty, as we all know, posting should now increase and i hope the dispute extends into Christmas where the pressure will then tell on RM.
The union and us have to win this dispute, or its curtains for the union and us!

[meweavy]

I know the union went into talks with the best of intentions and really didn't have much choice when they said that they would respond to a period of calm.
But that said i can't help having the feeling that the union have been set up by two sharp operators.
First, Royal Mail has had breathing space to recruit casuals and they have done!
Second, They have cleared the back log.
Third, Probally many managers have been trained on how to drive 740s!
Fourth, aside from the commited on this forum their will be many in the union who will not have the stomach to continue action and its a good job that the union does not require a re-ballot now.
So where do we go from here?
Well we have to start the pressure from cold and build up a head of steam again.
Fortunalty, as we all know, posting should now increase and i hope the dispute extends into Christmas where the pressure will then tell on RM.
The union and us have to win this dispute, or its curtains for the union and us!

i think you maybe right..the only reason rm agreed to sit down and "talk"was probably due to the bad press they have been getting..
they had no intention of coming to any kind of arrangement with the union..or discussion for that matter..
it seems all they wanted to do was bide a little time to maybe get the opress and the government off thier backs and get the back log sorted..

they have no intention of negotiating with the union and i dont thing we are any nearer to getting anywhere then when all this s**t started..

the only way we could move forwards is if the government stepped in and done something about the poison that is ruining this company.and put it in the hands of someone who has a brain cell and someone who actually wants to see this company do well.

but that aint gonna happen..so these strikes could run and run..

[BELIAL]

100% agree with you S500.
Leighton , Crozier, Postcomm and the govt have a business plan they want to introduce and a strategy to achieve it. They are skilled and determined and all thier actions to date have been consistent in pursuit of this objective.

Forget the propoganda smokescreen about consumer choice, quality of service, improved efficiency; the plan is simple drive down costs to the bare minimum, maximise profits, then step by little step transfer these profits to the private sector.

They do have a big problem though, there is a contradiction/conflict in the model. From a purely profit driven perspective the USO makes no financial sense, yet a massive proportion of the economy is utterly dependant on this service, and therefore on us, united we hold an extremely powerful bargaining position.

The rolling strike tactic has shaken RM because of it's effect but particularly because of it's potential to be sustained. It's effective operation will however require clear guidance and discipline.

I believe the CWU should restart the rolling action ,upping it to one day per week .
Since there is clearly no basis for trust such action should continue until final agreement is reached.
All future negotiations should be open and public, any fool knows the first point of attack is your enemys communication lines.

I hope we learn from previous errors ,because united and informed we cannot be beaten.

[Loyalblue]

100% agree with you S500.
Leighton , Crozier, Postcomm and the govt have a business plan they want to introduce and a strategy to achieve it. They are skilled and determined and all thier actions to date have been consistent in pursuit of this objective.

Forget the propoganda smokescreen about consumer choice, quality of service, improved efficiency; the plan is simple drive down costs to the bare minimum, maximise profits, then step by little step transfer these profits to the private sector.

They do have a big problem though, there is a contradiction/conflict in the model. From a purely profit driven perspective the USO makes no financial sense, yet a massive proportion of the economy is utterly dependant on this service, and therefore on us, united we hold an extremely powerful bargaining position.

The rolling strike tactic has shaken RM because of it's effect but particularly because of it's potential to be sustained. It's effective operation will however require clear guidance and discipline.

I believe the CWU should restart the rolling action ,upping it to one day per week .
Since there is clearly no basis for trust such action should continue until final agreement is reached.
All future negotiations should be open and public, any fool knows the first point of attack is your enemys communication lines.

I hope we learn from previous errors ,because united and informed we cannot be beaten.

I cant fault your reasoning with anything you have said especially the USO. It is essential that IA when implemented this time continues until agreement,as we have seen the `period of calm`was all B******s -a breathing space to get their s***t together.

[Leyton Crozier]

It's the union's job to deal with the issues not to bring us out on strike unless all else fails, so they really had no choice but to enter these talks. However I believe RM had no intention of reaching any deal, Leighton and Crozier have tried to smash the union for years and I also reckon they've regrouped and rearmed and hope that the impetus to strike has been lost. At the outset they were confident that after the first couple of days the support would wane - but it didn't. Will our members continue to support the strikes? If my office is anything to go by the mood has hardened since the talks failed. :cfo