National Joint Statement - Indoor Flow Improvement Process

[fishtank]

No: 898/11 Ref: 230.03 Date: 26th October 2011

To: Branches with POSTAL Members

Dear Colleague,

National Joint Statement - Indoor Flow Improvement Process

Branches will be aware that we have been involved in ongoing dialogue with Royal Mail for a number of weeks to try and conclude an agreement covering the above mentioned process. We have finally arrived at a position where we have an agreed Joint Statement that was endorsed by the Postal Executive yesterday.

The National Joint Statement commits both parties to engage in positive dialogue supported by agreed processes, such as weekly resourcing meetings and the utilisation of the agreed and newly introduced flexing/resourcing tool to identify and resolve any consequential resourcing requirements on an ongoing basis. The Joint Statement clearly states that hours can be flexed up or down accordingly. It also confirms that any definite structural change to duty start and finish times and attendance patterns can only be introduced by agreement at phase 4 and deployed at phase 5 in line with the national agreement. There is also a clear distinction between general uplifts with full consultation and operational change through negotiation, with the full involvement of the CWU including H&S Reps.

The Joint Statement covering the Indoor Flow Improvement Process brings this back under the umbrella of the 6 phase revision process, meaning it can’t be used in isolation and the IR Framework.

To provide clarity a list of units who will be entering into the 6 phase revision process is attached at Annex A. Units that were already involved in the flow process prior to this Joint Statement should ensure that any changes are brought in line with this agreement.
We have also built in a joint review in January 2012 to enable us to take account of the process and how it has been received. Units involved in the process will be asked to provide a report prior to the review commencing.

Any enquiries to Bob Gibson’s Office, quoting reference 230.03
Email address: hnutley@cwu.org

Yours sincerely


Bob Gibson
Assistant Secretary

National Joint Statement - Indoor Flow Improvement Process.pdf

list of units.pdf

[Lincox]

Fish, have you any idea what Hours flexed up or down mean to the individual.?

[fishtank]

Fish, have you any idea what Hours flexed up or down mean to the individual.?

Feck all...it's a resourcing tool.
As far as i'm aware It is supposed to give them an accurate picture ,based on traffic of how many hours over the model they will have to resource.


Artists impression of a Royal Mail accurate picture.

[keithposty]

the agreement stipulates that the 30 minute flex is voluntary 2007 pay and mod

so what is this all about and how are managers going to interpret this

what next

enforced overtime saying its in the agreement

[ldsposti]

What is indoor flow improvement process

[BELIAL]

So what's that mean in plain English? 6 hour deliveries? Gibson

[fishtank]

What is indoor flow improvement process

In a nutshell...moving things around a bit to improve efficiency and cut down on unnecessary and duplicated work.
If you've ever been up on the IPS and you can't get sorting for hands diving into the boxes picking out 3 letters just so they can come back 2 minutes later for another 3...you'll understand the basics.
Of course the idea is to cut the indoor work to the bone so that as B says....you can maximise the delivery span.

[ldsposti]

ah now i know what it means, thanks fish

[vigilante]

What is indoor flow improvement process

Fish is right, they use backless frames,bear with me,
These frames have bungee cords on the back to stop mail obviously falling straight out
then you have dedicated sorters with 'porters' who feed the dedicated preppers.
Sorter is probably the worst job!

[Lincox]

Sounds like we are very close to having dedicated delivery only posties. What part of any agreement is this shown in and Health & Safety

[Bernardson]

What is indoor flow improvement process

These frames have bungee cords on the back to stop mail obviously falling straight out

Not if you aim for the corners

[vigilante]

What is indoor flow improvement process

These frames have bungee cords on the back to stop mail obviously falling straight out

Not if you aim for the corners

will have to try it!!!!

[Bernardson]

What is indoor flow improvement process

In a nutshell...moving things around a bit to improve efficiency and cut down on unnecessary and duplicated work.
If you've ever been up on the IPS and you can't get sorting for hands diving into the boxes picking out 3 letters just so they can come back 2 minutes later for another 3...you'll understand the basics.
Of course the idea is to cut the indoor work to the bone so that as B says....you can maximise the delivery span.

In our office were it was implemented by EA it has achieved nothing as it has reduced the numbers of sorters whom now prep and the sorters remain on the IPS longer feeling demoralised and nervous about wether any of their walk is being thrown off!
It has isolated those walks that had a limited of IPS in the first place as these members of staff now stand around waiting for work to be ported to them> A situation I can see that won't be retainend for much longer.
The porter is stressed as he both tries to keep up the demands of the sorters to keep the frames clear and the prepers to be kept in work!

[Danelectro]

What is indoor flow improvement process

In a nutshell...moving things around a bit to improve efficiency and cut down on unnecessary and duplicated work.
If you've ever been up on the IPS and you can't get sorting for hands diving into the boxes picking out 3 letters just so they can come back 2 minutes later for another 3...you'll understand the basics.
Of course the idea is to cut the indoor work to the bone so that as B says....you can maximise the delivery span.

Gibson has agreed to another layer of efficiency without sorting out the current mess and its unclear layers of efficiency.He also agrees with this knowing full well that a lot of offices are not doing the job properly and the corners being cut at present more than cancel out the efficiency savings made in the above scenario.

The picture fishtank paints on the IPS with hands diving into the boxes slowing down sorting is mainly caused in my office by allowing PT staff in early who then do the above and also FT staff in early who have a PT duty to prep and then they start steaming into the walksort.

efficiency ? :dcfo

[clashcityrocker]

Has anyone ever been grape picking?
Don't you have a "porter" to clear the grapes you have picked?
Is this where the idea has come from?