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Is Royal Mail as poor as they say ????

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.

I'm sure Adam Crozier is working just as hard as you and me ....do you think he should get a 92p P/W ( - TAX / NI ) bonus too ?

Poll ended at 30 May 2007, 20:33

YES
3
18%
NO
14
82%
 
Total votes: 17

Mr. Auburger
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Is Royal Mail as poor as they say ????

Post by Mr. Auburger »

At WTL (or should I say propaganda sessions ) RM keeps telling us that they are skint....How can they be so skint when we have only lost less than 4% of the mail to the competition, even though we still get paid for the final mile (50% of the cost).

4% ! thats 1/25 th of the mail.....but we have lost 40,000 postmen over the last 3 years---THATS ABOUT 20% (1/5 th of the workforce )---thats 40,000 less wages RM has had to pay---40,000 less pension conts. to pay out------40,000 less NI conts. to pay out....etc.

This, on top of the numerous local / national savings that we have made, BUT HAVEN'T BEEN PAID FOR !

RM are fiddling the figures so that they can push throught the changes our two leaders--HINGE & BRACKET want.....Then they'll leave....with smiles and bags of cash !

JOB DONE !
ROCKY
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Post by ROCKY »

ITS CALLED CREATIVE BOOK KEEPING WE HAVE SEEN IT BEFORE,PROJECT AMAZON DUMPED ON ONE YEARS FIGURES ETC ETC,ITS ALL DOWN TO TRYING TO KEEP UP THE PENSION PAYMENTS, IF YOU ADD UP THE EXTRA BEING DUMPED IN THERE OUR PROFFITS ARE ACTUALLY MASSIVE, IN FACT RIDICULOUS FOR A PUBLIC SERVICE,MAGIC STRIKES AGAIN ITS ALL IN WHAT WE ARE WANTED TO SEE NOT WHAT REALLY IS HAPPENING, PAUL DANIELS EAT YOUR HEART OUT, RM STILL HOPE THEY CAN FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME FORGETTING THAT WITH THE INTERNET WE CAN ALL FIND THINGS OUT AND NO LONGER RELY ON WHAT WE ARE TOLD,DONT BELIEVE,LOOK, READ,LEARN,THINK,THEN INWARDLY DIGEST,THEN PASS ON THE WORD,RM HAS ONLY TWO MAIN REAL PROBLEMS,AN ILL THOUGHT OUT EUROPEAN DIRECTIVE THAT HAS EITHER BEEN IGNORED OR PUT ON THE BACK BURNER BY MOST COUNTRIES IN A WAIT AND SEE GAMBIT,AND A CHANCELLOR WHO WILL FUC? UP ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING TO MAKE FIGURES LOOK GOOD AT THE BUDGET THE ONLY REAL PROBLEMS WE HAVE IS THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN FORCED ON US BY POLITICAL BULSH??
IF YOU READ NEWS GUYS POSTS YOU WILL SEE THAT MOST OF EUROPE DOUBTS,OR INDEED IGNORES THIS DIRECTIVE OR MAYBE PICKS AND CHOOSES THE BITS THAT SUITS THEM,WE ARE THE GUINEA PIGS THANKS TO TONY YES SIR BLAIR,OUR MISTAKES WILL BE A LESSON TO THE REST, THE PROBLEM IS THE REST WILL STILL HAVE A POST OFFICE AND WE WILL BE WORSHIPPING ORANGE

POSTMAN THEY SAY THAT THE RIGHT PERSON, AT THE RIGHT PLACE, AT THE RIGHT TIME, CAN CHANGE THE WORLD ANOTHER 100,000 MEMBERS OF THIS SITE AND WHO KNOWS WHAT WE CAN ACHIEVE WELL DONE WITH THE TIMING
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Croziers wages

Post by johnnyp »

Crozier should not get another penny in his already over filled pockets, :mad if things are as bad as what they say him and leighton should both take pay cuts right now to help towards the £350 million savings that need to be achieved.Lead the way boys. :Very Happy
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Post by POSTMAN »

They're full of s**t,it seems to change when it suits them.
When we originally allegedly made all them losses a few years back the union pointed out the book keeping scam then wallop everythings ok then wallop again it's all pair shaped.
We get the bulk of the DSA money and like Mr. Auburger said we've lost loads of staff ect so where's it all going,and we have the VAT exempt thing as well.
It's a scam at the highest level and the Gov are behind it as well,and we're not getting any support from anyone.
We're not skint we can't be.
Where's the FOzzmeister?
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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L Tommo
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POSTMAN... FOZZIE SAW THE LIGHT!!!

Post by L Tommo »

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: AND got out in time!!! We all know if you read Fozzies posts he had RM in his heart, but now he knows we are fecked with the Labour party hoodwinking and holding the old pals act over the CWU and then stabbing us in the back!! Fozzie mate if im wrong please tell me ??? I fell gutted that the CWU never addressed it before! WHY?? Coz there is to many looking out ofr there own skins as the ship sinks!! MP. A, Johnson Comes to mind!!! When will we learn ?? It aint about Politics its about a group of people from all walks of life whom all work for the same company, So lets push aside the old school ties with ANY Political party and fight what is in front of us! Any army in history worth
there salts fought on one front at a time! DONT SPLIT UP, DONT GIVE LIP SERVICE TO POWER MAD DO GOODERS! WE the CWU are a group with in a group of individuals! That need to wake up and smell the coffee!! Before its to late! Local strenght is needed 1st. Then a knock on effect will happen if we keep strong!!!

OUR

DONT LET THE PROPAGANDA GRIND US DOWN!
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Re: POSTMAN... FOZZIE SAW THE LIGHT!!!

Post by KawasakiKid »

L Tommo wrote::shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: AND got out in time!!! We all know if you read Fozzies posts he had RM in his heart, but now he knows we are fecked with the Labour party hoodwinking and holding the old pals act over the CWU and then stabbing us in the back!! Fozzie mate if im wrong please tell me ??? I fell gutted that the CWU never addressed it before! WHY?? Coz there is to many looking out ofr there own skins as the ship sinks!! MP. A, Johnson Comes to mind!!! When will we learn ?? It aint about Politics its about a group of people from all walks of life whom all work for the same company, So lets push aside the old school ties with ANY Political party and fight what is in front of us! Any army in history worth
there salts fought on one front at a time! DONT SPLIT UP, DONT GIVE LIP SERVICE TO POWER MAD DO GOODERS! WE the CWU are a group with in a group of individuals! That need to wake up and smell the coffee!! Before its to late! Local strenght is needed 1st. Then a knock on effect will happen if we keep strong!!!

OUR

DONT LET THE PROPAGANDA GRIND US DOWN!
Wow L TOMMO Has any one ever told you, U is a Genius?-------------------KWACK :hmmmm :hmmmm :whistle :whistle :cuppa :cuppa
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Post by johno47 »

RM arent skint this company had used to run on 10% of its profits because the gov had used to take 90% and while they were doing that they still took a pension holiday for 13 years, what it is, is that the money they make as profit they want to buy machines to reduce the workforce, ive noticed that Leighton and Crozier never blame the gov for the situation that RM are in not even when they sat in front of a gov select commitee, its like they were frightened to even mention it even when certain MPs pressed them to blame the gov. Ive said many times on this site that we should be a public service and not a profit making organisation, because once it becomes a profit making issue, no ammount of profit is ever enough, it always has to be more, and customers and staff are the big losers.
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EYE EYE!!!

Post by L Tommo »

Ohhhhh yeh!!!!!! Ohhh its 1030 i better get my carpet slippers on and my smoking jacket... "Them two bags REALLY DONE ME IN."

OUT

Bitter and twisted over a back sliding git!!!! I shouldnt coz im bigger than that!! But ohhhhhhhh betty, He's gone and done another whoopsy on the carpet!!

ps Still hope you slide in to the sea!!! :wave
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Big Daz
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Post by Big Daz »

Whats happened to all the managers that took the pension holiday, thats right they got a big juicy pension while the rest of us have 20 mins extra work shoved on the delivery each day to get that poxy £3 a week payrise last year.

I hope John Roberts is enjoying his pension, he should be made to pay some of it back!
ROCKY
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Post by ROCKY »

I VOTED YES FOR THE 92P AS LONG AS HE HAS OUR PAY PACKET TO GO WITH IT
Margate Postman

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I can feel a Emoticon frenzy coming on!!!

Post by L Tommo »

OHHHHHH the drama the effect!! OHHHH the crowd gathers all to see a slaying!!!

"we want blood" the masses cry.. Or failing that, "Who wants to go on the amusements DAHN IN marGIT???

OUT

And in the RED corner!!!! Fighting out of Rockchester England!! His record is Fought loads, Drew none. And Lost None!!! ROCKYYYYYYYYYY!!

(and the crowd go wild)

And in the light blue corner!!! Fighting out of marGIT! England but soon the English channel.. Record number of people pissed of with him,
Drew none Lost them all with his twisted ways and ORRIBAL SENSE OF SILLY OLD GIT HUMOUR .. margie!
and the crowd just look n shake there heads :d'oh! :so there :so there :so there :so there :so there :so there :so there
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

Margate Postman wrote:
ROCKY wrote:I VOTED YES FOR THE 92P AS LONG AS HE HAS OUR PAY PACKET TO GO WITH IT
arent you a former manager?

makes sense.
Former alley boss - and a decent one - probably why he's not one anymore.

Tommo is this smiley what your getting at

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Post by Zorro »

RM are so skint that they only managed to find £75million stuffed down the back of the sofa last Friday to up the pay offer from £250-£550 to £250-£600!



Now c`mon lads and lasses. Lets pass around a cap and have a whip-round.