Gordon Brown

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 01 Sep 2007, 18:36

So he voted strongly in favour of the war did he? Typical politician! Some things never change.

Lads, you're wanted,
Go and help.
On the railway carriage wall
Stuck the poster
and I thought of the hands
that penned the call.

Fat civilians wishing they
Could go and fight the Hun;
Can't you see them
Thanking God they're over forty one.

Girls with feathers, vulgar songs,
Washy verse on England's need
God and don't we damn-well know
How the message ought to read.

Lads, you're wanted, over there
Shiver in the morning dew
More poor devils, like yourselves
Waiting to be killed by you.

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 01 Sep 2007, 21:38

linkinpark wrote:
IWW Fellow Worker wrote:So he voted strongly in favour of the war did he? Typical politician! Some things never change.

Lads, you're wanted,
Go and help.
On the railway carriage wall
Stuck the poster
and I thought of the hands
that penned the call.

Fat civilians wishing they
Could go and fight the Hun;
Can't you see them
Thanking God they're over forty one.

Girls with feathers, vulgar songs,
Washy verse on England's need
God and don't we damn-well know
How the message ought to read.

Lads, you're wanted, over there
Shiver in the morning dew
More poor devils, like yourselves
Waiting to be killed by you.
Sounds like a poem from WW1, as with all war its so futile and we the workers on all sides pay the price for political greed. I found a book by Malcolm Brown very informative its called The Somme and is a book of letters and diaries by combatants on both sides i found it so sad in places that it almost made me cry, i think there is a section from the Post Office Rifles who fought there. Some of the political and social things sound almost the same as today. lets hope the war ends soon for all the solders and civilians over there and Blair and Brown see what they have done in the name of greed.

Yes, it's by E. M. Mackintosh who was killed in 1917.

norbet colon · Post by **norbet colon** » 05 Sep 2007, 14:24

IWW Fellow Worker wrote:
linkinpark wrote:
IWW Fellow Worker wrote:So he voted strongly in favour of the war did he? Typical politician! Some things never change.

Lads, you're wanted,
Go and help.
On the railway carriage wall
Stuck the poster
and I thought of the hands
that penned the call.

Fat civilians wishing they
Could go and fight the Hun;
Can't you see them
Thanking God they're over forty one.

Girls with feathers, vulgar songs,
Washy verse on England's need
God and don't we damn-well know
How the message ought to read.

Lads, you're wanted, over there
Shiver in the morning dew
More poor devils, like yourselves
Waiting to be killed by you.
Sounds like a poem from WW1, as with all war its so futile and we the workers on all sides pay the price for political greed. I found a book by Malcolm Brown very informative its called The Somme and is a book of letters and diaries by combatants on both sides i found it so sad in places that it almost made me cry, i think there is a section from the Post Office Rifles who fought there. Some of the political and social things sound almost the same as today. lets hope the war ends soon for all the solders and civilians over there and Blair and Brown see what they have done in the name of greed.
Yes, it's by E. M. Mackintosh who was killed in 1917.

-Private Eye do a vicious satire on Brown , one is the Broonites based on the Sunday Post comic strip , the other is Prime Ministerial Decrees with Brown in his Red Army Coat and AK47. Policies may go to the right but the mindsets stay the same. POLITICS -Showbusiness for the ugly, inadequate and powermad .

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 05 Sep 2007, 14:44

saw this on Private Eyes website - it made me laugh

Wild Cat · Post by **Wild Cat** » 06 Sep 2007, 21:06

Big Daz wrote:[edit] Political impact
The strikes appeared to have a profound effect on voting intention. According to Gallup, Labour had a lead of 5% over the Conservatives in November 1978, which turned to a Conservative lead of 7Â·5% in January 1979, and of 20% in February

So who let Maggie in then? The labour goverment or the trade unions?

The facts are there guys the unions went to far in 1979 to the extent that the public felt that they were not acting in their interest which is where there is no parallel to now.

The public were reminded daily during the tory years about the lights going out,the three day week,the rubbish on the streets and the dead left unburied.this is not the image we want to portray,all we want is a decent standard of living which seems to becoming harder and harder to get.

They have to accept their side of the blame for letting the tories in and that a large number of union members from that time were members of the communist party and Idealised a Soviet/East German style society.

If anyone wants to defend the communists I suppose you would rather have Stalin or Mau Se Tung in power.At least with Brown and co we have some chance of fighting back even though he supports big business.

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 06 Sep 2007, 21:23

Problem is Wildcat, if this dispute escallates i can not imagine the bulk of the media championing our cause.

The headlines i can imagine; CWU last bastion of the loony left; CWU luddites fight modernisation; Greedy postal workers wan't to charge us extra to finance their lazy ways.

And what will be said in 25years time?

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 06 Sep 2007, 21:30

Wild Cat wrote:They have to accept their side of the blame for letting the tories in and that a large number of union members from that time were members of the communist party and Idealised a Soviet/East German style society.

There were 12 million trade unionists in 1979 and the largest left-wing group were the Socialist Workers Party who had around 1,200 members. The CPGB had only a few hundred members by then, and they were mostly elderly. There really wasn't much Communist Party influence anywhere in the TUC by 1979.

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 06 Sep 2007, 21:34

IWW Fellow Worker wrote:
Wild Cat wrote:They have to accept their side of the blame for letting the tories in and that a large number of union members from that time were members of the communist party and Idealised a Soviet/East German style society.
There were 12 million trade unionists in 1979 and the largest left-wing group were the Socialist Workers Party who had around 1,200 members. The CPGB had only a few hundred members by then, and they were mostly elderly. There really wasn't much Communist Party influence anywhere in the TUC by 1979.

Well thats not much of a red tide is it. Why were the rest of them being so unreasonable?

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 06 Sep 2007, 21:41

BELIAL wrote:
Well thats not much of a red tide is it. Why were the rest of them being so unreasonable?

I think it might have had something to do with having a Labour Government which introduced NHS and education cuts and rising unemployment rather than several million people rushing out to buy copies of Das Kapital from the bookshops and models of MIG aeroplanes from Beatties.
Even the largest socialist party around at the time had no time for Moscow. As I recall, one of their slogans was 'Neither Moscow nor Washington' and constantly pointed out that Soviet Russia was a state capitalist beurocracy in it's publications.

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 06 Sep 2007, 22:25

I think i've got it, workers get shafted by the labour party,then shafted by the tories, then shafted by the labour party, HEY i've spotted a pattern.

Carla · Post by **Carla** » 06 Sep 2007, 22:27

It's called the never ending story of shafting workers and has always been the case sadly