This came up last week when the dinosaur of a manager was trying to argue this point with HR, they told him to get to f**k.
Guy at HR actually said all managers have been briefed on this and they know what they can and cant do.
Bunch of frickin chancers the whole lot of em.
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Jury Service
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wabbithunta
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Re: Jury Service
This is an update to my last post about this subject.
I saw a few people this afternoon when I was out with friends, some were posties and some were not. They've asked me how it went last week and they've basically all said the same thing as well, with regards to what has been discussed on here. They also said you can add to that, that the fact remains that I am STILL on jury service . It was also pointed out to me by some that I should stay at home as technically I am still required by the Crown and should be on call and ready to attend WHEN REQUIRED. That is to say.. I should not attend work as if I am at work and I'm needed it would follow that there would/could/will be a problem inasmuch as if I'm out on delivery I'll be cutting off immediately at that point, irrespective of where I am and however long I am out on delivery to return to the office straight away and then immediately make my way to court.
So it would then follow that I shouldn't go into work as:
I AM STILL UNDER THE CROWNS JURISDICTION UNTIL I AM NO LONGER REQUIRED BY THE CROWN TO CARRY OUT MY DUTIES AS A JUROR
So it would seem that it would be in my best interests to "sit by the phone" at home and "wait for a call" irrespective of whether I receive one or not.
I don't want to be done for contempt of court now do I?
I saw a few people this afternoon when I was out with friends, some were posties and some were not. They've asked me how it went last week and they've basically all said the same thing as well, with regards to what has been discussed on here. They also said you can add to that, that the fact remains that I am STILL on jury service . It was also pointed out to me by some that I should stay at home as technically I am still required by the Crown and should be on call and ready to attend WHEN REQUIRED. That is to say.. I should not attend work as if I am at work and I'm needed it would follow that there would/could/will be a problem inasmuch as if I'm out on delivery I'll be cutting off immediately at that point, irrespective of where I am and however long I am out on delivery to return to the office straight away and then immediately make my way to court.
So it would then follow that I shouldn't go into work as:
I AM STILL UNDER THE CROWNS JURISDICTION UNTIL I AM NO LONGER REQUIRED BY THE CROWN TO CARRY OUT MY DUTIES AS A JUROR
So it would seem that it would be in my best interests to "sit by the phone" at home and "wait for a call" irrespective of whether I receive one or not.
I don't want to be done for contempt of court now do I?
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Lounge Lizard
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Re: Jury Service
"sit by the phone" at home and "wait for a call" - so you've not had a very good Saturday then.wabbithunta wrote:This is an update to my last post about this subject.
I saw a few people this afternoon when I was out with friends, some were posties and some were not. They've asked me how it went last week and they've basically all said the same thing as well, with regards to what has been discussed on here. They also said you can add to that, that the fact remains that I am STILL on jury service . It was also pointed out to me by some that I should stay at home as technically I am still required by the Crown and should be on call and ready to attend WHEN REQUIRED. That is to say.. I should not attend work as if I am at work and I'm needed it would follow that there would/could/will be a problem inasmuch as if I'm out on delivery I'll be cutting off immediately at that point, irrespective of where I am and however long I am out on delivery to return to the office straight away and then immediately make my way to court.
So it would then follow that I shouldn't go into work as:
I AM STILL UNDER THE CROWNS JURISDICTION UNTIL I AM NO LONGER REQUIRED BY THE CROWN TO CARRY OUT MY DUTIES AS A JUROR
So it would seem that it would be in my best interests to "sit by the phone" at home and "wait for a call" irrespective of whether I receive one or not.
I don't want to be done for contempt of court now do I?
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wabbithunta
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Re: Jury Service
Lounge Lizard wrote:"sit by the phone" at home and "wait for a call" - so you've not had a very good Saturday then.wabbithunta wrote:This is an update to my last post about this subject.
I saw a few people this afternoon when I was out with friends, some were posties and some were not. They've asked me how it went last week and they've basically all said the same thing as well, with regards to what has been discussed on here. They also said you can add to that, that the fact remains that I am STILL on jury service . It was also pointed out to me by some that I should stay at home as technically I am still required by the Crown and should be on call and ready to attend WHEN REQUIRED. That is to say.. I should not attend work as if I am at work and I'm needed it would follow that there would/could/will be a problem inasmuch as if I'm out on delivery I'll be cutting off immediately at that point, irrespective of where I am and however long I am out on delivery to return to the office straight away and then immediately make my way to court.
So it would then follow that I shouldn't go into work as:
I AM STILL UNDER THE CROWNS JURISDICTION UNTIL I AM NO LONGER REQUIRED BY THE CROWN TO CARRY OUT MY DUTIES AS A JUROR
So it would seem that it would be in my best interests to "sit by the phone" at home and "wait for a call" irrespective of whether I receive one or not.
I don't want to be done for contempt of court now do I?![]()
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Lounge Lizard, if you took the time to read what I've said you'll see that I was referring to the Monday of next week and not today (Saturday) as no doubt you also maybe think that the courts are open on Sundays too maybe, that is going by your "train of thought" as I've been out and about with friends today.
So to answer your comment.
I'm not sad at all. In fact I've had a very productive day today. On Monday, the day I refer to, I will be "sitting by the phone" waiting to see if the courts call me to come in, somehow I don't think they will, but as I am still currently on jury service I will, no doubt, have to make it my duty to do so. Or are you going to call me sad when I do that as well?
Have you ever done jury service at all? You'll find that most of the people who have left comments on this page, and on others too, have served on juries, hence my question in the first place as I was seeking advice on what to do not and not seeking banal comments.
So do please take time to read the posts and not just jump in and make a blithe comment and misread something that you have taken out of context.
If, however, this was an attempt at sarcasm, it was a poor effort to say the least.
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Lounge Lizard
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Re: Jury Service
Yes, reading your comment in haste and not thinking ahead to the next week, my comment was inappropriate.wabbithunta wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:"sit by the phone" at home and "wait for a call" - so you've not had a very good Saturday then.wabbithunta wrote:This is an update to my last post about this subject.
I saw a few people this afternoon when I was out with friends, some were posties and some were not. They've asked me how it went last week and they've basically all said the same thing as well, with regards to what has been discussed on here. They also said you can add to that, that the fact remains that I am STILL on jury service . It was also pointed out to me by some that I should stay at home as technically I am still required by the Crown and should be on call and ready to attend WHEN REQUIRED. That is to say.. I should not attend work as if I am at work and I'm needed it would follow that there would/could/will be a problem inasmuch as if I'm out on delivery I'll be cutting off immediately at that point, irrespective of where I am and however long I am out on delivery to return to the office straight away and then immediately make my way to court.
So it would then follow that I shouldn't go into work as:
I AM STILL UNDER THE CROWNS JURISDICTION UNTIL I AM NO LONGER REQUIRED BY THE CROWN TO CARRY OUT MY DUTIES AS A JUROR
So it would seem that it would be in my best interests to "sit by the phone" at home and "wait for a call" irrespective of whether I receive one or not.
I don't want to be done for contempt of court now do I?![]()
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Lounge Lizard, if you took the time to read what I've said you'll see that I was referring to the Monday of next week and not today (Saturday) as no doubt you also maybe think that the courts are open on Sundays too maybe, that is going by your "train of thought" as I've been out and about with friends today.
So to answer your comment.
I'm not sad at all. In fact I've had a very productive day today. On Monday, the day I refer to, I will be "sitting by the phone" waiting to see if the courts call me to come in, somehow I don't think they will, but as I am still currently on jury service I will, no doubt, have to make it my duty to do so. Or are you going to call me sad when I do that as well?
Have you ever done jury service at all? You'll find that most of the people who have left comments on this page, and on others too, have served on juries, hence my question in the first place as I was seeking advice on what to do not and not seeking banal comments.
So do please take time to read the posts and not just jump in and make a blithe comment and misread something that you have taken out of context.
If, however, this was an attempt at sarcasm, it was a poor effort to say the least.
However I've not called you 'sad' and neither have I had the privilege of being called for jury service.
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twobags
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Re: Jury Service
we were advised by our usher and other court officials that if you not required to attend a certain day then attend work as normal then ring later that day to see if you were required the next day and so on , the court dont pay you for days off , and any days taken by you when not required by the court off from royal mail could be classed as absence. when you have finished your jury service royal mail will want the money paid to you back if two weeks , the courts dont pay your employer direct they pay you, also royal mail pay you as normal .they will expect them to add up when my jury service finished i had to give royal mail over 2500 back once all days were accounted for and varified with paper work from courts and dom/union rep, effectively your paid by courts and royal mail under the new system. very confusing..........
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OnAFlyer
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Re: Jury Service
I got sent home before lunchtime every day except one when I did JS. Did about 30 hours in total over 2 weeksnoggin1969 wrote:Done jury service twice now and never been asked to work a Saturday , you will be at the court mon to fri so thats your 5 days and the crown is paying your wages anyway so tell him to :mfo