The Big No No to paying overtime...

[youwot!!!!!]

It begs the question... Why did you do it in the first place? Work for free?

No...the guy is still new to the business.
The really big question is where was his coach/rep/colleagues?
Too busy running out the door to give a f**k is the probable answer.

yeah im still quite new so didnt wanna make waves over 15 min, 20 mins here and there. but now im like well no actually im busting my arse off for free, which isnt right. plus also ive noticed not everyone is completing the summer duties which made me think screw this...

so the penny has finally dropped.welcome toy the real world.
NO EXTRA PAY = NO EXTRA HOURS WORKED.

[BELIAL]

another good one is when the managers say well the figures show that the duty can be done ontime how do you reply to that?

Actually - the tool that managers can use to check performance is generous on the side of Posties, to the point that our managers gave up using it. I believe they only used it 3 or 4 times, I know at one point they actually counted the mail in the frame and the actual figures was around 10-15% lower than the figures given by the software.

AFAIK that tool is now obsolete anyway, and there is no current agreed method of testing performance. There isn't in our office anyway. There aren't many that cut off, but the ones that do get no hassle.

Nirvana, you lucky f**k

[buster01]

heres a thought! get the "workplace coach" to show you how to do the job properly,follow his instructions and see how your manager reacts. the workplace coach was interviewed for that task by royal mail management, can a workplace coach complete your duty on time?? just a thought

[Cheetah]

LAPSING...... The purpose of which is to take you up to your paid hours when you have spare time in your duty. If you don't have time in your duty DON'T DO IT simple as that, your'e obliged to work at a fair reasonable pace, so do just that, don't come in early do it in your car, run or the likes...... Let your manager say what he likes I presume your in the union use them. It is illegal to force you to do unpaid overtime and that's just what they seem to be doing.......

[wood]

Our worktime coach would, getting a family member (not working for the Royal Mail)to help with the deliver. At least he being made up now.

[boogyman]

if you don't want to use your car at our office, managers are saying you have to give them 2 weeks notice! what a load of bo...x its their job to get you out their! am i rite?

[Cheetah]

if you don't want to use your car at our office, managers are saying you have to give them 2 weeks notice! what a load of bo...x its their job to get you out their! am i rite?

Never have, never will....... Sorry bleating falls on deaf ears, you've made your bed now lie in it

[TrueBlueTerrier]

if you don't want to use your car at our office, managers are saying you have to give them 2 weeks notice! what a load of bo...x its their job to get you out their! am i rite?

Yes you are right ------ in a way.

They should always plan duties based on acceleration but anyone using a car has made that part of the planning easier for the managers. The PCOD does say you can stop using your car at any time but requests that you give your manager some warning.

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... start=5700" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Its an unagreed document to a procedure that does not have Union support but might be worth checking out RMs PCOD document:

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... te#p369916" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Q24. If I sign up to use my car, but decide on some occasions not to use it, will I be instructed to use it or have disciplinary action taken against me?
A. No. You have volunteered to use your car and not doing so incurs no sanction. However, if you are unreliable and give no notice of when you will or won’t, or say you will and then don’t, Royal Mail will prevent you from using your car and require you to use official acceleration instead by withdrawing its insurance from you.

and

Q28. Once someone has signed up for the scheme, how much notice will they have to give should they wish stop using their own car, except for the normal reasons, loss of license – broken down etc?
A. There is no formal notice period, as such. We only ask that you give as much notice as you can and be reliable. In other words, treat your manager, as you would wish to be treated yourself. If you are unreliable, Royal Mail reserves the right to stop you using your private car, with immediate effect.

On RMC we complain that managers don't treat us with respect and in most cases its a well warranted complaint. However, should we treat them the same when we get a chance, or should we treat them as we would prefer them to treat us. I would say give them the 2 weeks notice unless there are good reasons not to, why give them a reason to treat you even worse than now.

Of course that's just my opinion, but I am anti-PCOD anyway.