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Where do walkers put their PDA

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fishtank
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Re: Where do walkers put their PDA

Post by fishtank »

OnAFlyer wrote: It takes far longer with a PDA than with an Epod card.
I think to be honest if they were a bit simpler and a bit more reliable there wouldn't be much in it.
Half the wasted time is because they decide to do something completely random just when you need them not to.
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Re: Where do walkers put their PDA

Post by Stormproof »

Why did they buy the biggest load of crap going.....my £70 mobile can do all the stuff those bricks apparently do.
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
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Just keep on walking down never ending streets


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Re: Where do walkers put their PDA

Post by redneck »

Keep mine in my leg pocket of the new trousers, although a bit heavy so have to do my trousers up a notch on my belt so as not to be de-bagged on the round!

All delivery workers have a PDA in my office, as we are all on P&L with trolleys (in theory for some, in practice for others).
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Re: Where do walkers put their PDA

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redneck wrote:Keep mine in my leg pocket of the new trousers, although a bit heavy so have to do my trousers up a notch on my belt so as not to be de-bagged on the round!

All delivery workers have a PDA in my office, as we are all on P&L with trolleys (in theory for some, in practice for others).
:hmmmm the P&L duties have 1 PDA between them in my office but then, our PDAs go off to be repaired and never come back (I suppose we shouldn't send them to the PDA Triangle :wink: ).
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Re: Where do walkers put their PDA

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DGP1 wrote:
redneck wrote:Keep mine in my leg pocket of the new trousers, although a bit heavy so have to do my trousers up a notch on my belt so as not to be de-bagged on the round!

All delivery workers have a PDA in my office, as we are all on P&L with trolleys (in theory for some, in practice for others).
:hmmmm the P&L duties have 1 PDA between them in my office but then, our PDAs go off to be repaired and never come back (I suppose we shouldn't send them to the PDA Triangle :wink: ).
crazy thing is when a battery is f**ked or knackered they can't be sent back on their own, you have to send back the whole pda? With the state of the batteries now I think you guys in the DOs will be back to pen and paper before xmas pressure
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Re: Where do walkers put their PDA

Post by axeman »

OnAFlyer wrote:It takes far longer with a PDA than with an Epod card.

these pda's were designated to be used 'only' from the van NOT carried by means of a trolley pouch or whatever you think is o.k, they repeat were only to be used from the van
just go find and read the agreement on the use of a pda, so if you use as intended yes, by touting them around you could ? save time (depending if they work correctly)

Has that agreement be updated iv'e not seen anything that say it has ?
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Re: Where do walkers put their PDA

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axeman wrote: these pda's were designated to be used 'only' from the van NOT carried by means of a trolley pouch or whatever you think is o.k, they repeat were only to be used from the van
It's a bit less clear cut than that axeman.

The LTB states that...
Trials of the equipment found that the PDA was too bulky for Delivery Staff other than Drivers to carry round and therefore the PDAs will not be given to those who deliver by foot, cycle or high capacity trolleys.

..but that's not an agreement not to.
...and the agreed SSOW for the PDA states...

Carrying the PDA device on cycle, trolley, foot deliveries and during collections.
• The PDA device must be placed in the appropriate fitting when performing deliveries or collections. This shall prevent the device from falling and becoming a tripping hazard or be damaged on impact.
• To prevent slip trips and falls on delivery the operator must operate the PDA device in a stationary position at all times. This should be done at the customers premises or while in the vehicle.
• Where provided the hand strap of the device must be used at all times when holding the device and holstered when on delivery or collection.

Using the Proof of Delivery function of the PDA device on cycle, trolley and foot deliveries and also during collections
• The PDA device must be set up for the customer’s signature at their address while in a stationary position.
• The device is safe to use when operated as intended but contains an integrated 1D linear scanner and a laser. Therefore the beam MUST NOT be pointed to your own or others eyes.
• When using the screen only the stylus pen or finger-tips can be used.. Using other pens may damage the screen.
• After the PDA has been used it must be returned immediately and secured to the appropriate holster, case or vehicle cradle.
• Do not move off to the next delivery point or return to the vehicle while reading information on the PDA screen.
• If you have difficulties with the operation of the scanner and find it unreliable you must inform your line manager immediately.
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Re: Where do walkers put their PDA

Post by Blue29 »

fishtank wrote:
axeman wrote: these pda's were designated to be used 'only' ......... your line manager immediately.
Thats all wonderful advice and very useful. Begs the question though, why was my 'training' "click this, pin here, walk 0000000, scan and done" Later I discovered taking the battery out is the only way I know how to fix any frequent issue with it - frozen outs and so on. Never told about such rules of use even existing never mind look at them and I would place a large bet that my trainer hasn't the faintest idea about them either. And I use a PDA 20-30 times every working day. Makes me wonder if these rules exist only to cover RMs arse after the fact. Surely having not been advised of any of that makes it all null and void in a legal sense? Sorry to hijack the thread with a grumble.

In a pouch pocket is where I carry it, and yes i do use it at the same time as walking.
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Re: Where do walkers put their PDA

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Blue29 wrote: Later I discovered taking the battery out is the only way I know how to fix any frequent issue with it - frozen outs and so on.
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Re: Where do walkers put their PDA

Post by Blue29 »

fishtank wrote:
Blue29 wrote: Later I discovered taking the battery out is the only way I know how to fix any frequent issue with it - frozen outs and so on.
Resetting Your Computer
If the CN3 ....All other data is preserved.

Once again thanks for that. I wasn't aware there was an on/off button, training!?!
axeman
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Re: Where do walkers put their PDA

Post by axeman »

And when was the ssow writen i bet you it was when the walkers version was assumed to be following the type for the van ?
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Re: Where do walkers put their PDA

Post by OnAFlyer »

axeman wrote:
OnAFlyer wrote:It takes far longer with a PDA than with an Epod card.

these pda's were designated to be used 'only' from the van NOT carried by means of a trolley pouch or whatever you think is o.k, they repeat were only to be used from the van
just go find and read the agreement on the use of a pda, so if you use as intended yes, by touting them around you could ? save time (depending if they work correctly)

Has that agreement be updated iv'e not seen anything that say it has ?
No you can't save time with them over an Epod card, whether in the van or walking. I do both, have been using PDA's for months and they take more time, regardless of how they are used.
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Re: Where do walkers put their PDA

Post by Glyno »

feduppostie wrote:
CharlesSpooner wrote:In the pouch on the trolley - sounds like you've got a woodpecker in there though if you don't lock the keypad.
haha indeed I managed to call the police 3 times in 1 hour before I discovered the lock button :oops:

lock button? no-one told me about that :mad
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Re: Where do walkers put their PDA

Post by twobags »

Glyno wrote:
feduppostie wrote:
CharlesSpooner wrote:In the pouch on the trolley - sounds like you've got a woodpecker in there though if you don't lock the keypad.
haha indeed I managed to call the police 3 times in 1 hour before I discovered the lock button :oops:

lock button? no-one told me about that :mad
wheres the lock button ?
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Re: Where do walkers put their PDA

Post by Biker Mouse »

twobags wrote:
Glyno wrote:
feduppostie wrote:
CharlesSpooner wrote:In the pouch on the trolley - sounds like you've got a woodpecker in there though if you don't lock the keypad.
haha indeed I managed to call the police 3 times in 1 hour before I discovered the lock button :oops:

lock button? no-one told me about that :mad
wheres the lock button ?
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