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TALKS HAVE BEEN EXTENDED TILL SUNDAY!

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TALKS HAVE BEEN EXTENDED TILL SUNDAY!

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The talks have been extended by 5 days until sunday.
Following the 4 weeks of talks, both Royal Mail and CWU have agreed to extend negotiations for a further 5 days until Sunday 9th September 2007, in order to resolve all issues in dispute.

http://www.cwu.org/news.asp?step=3&NID=1796
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Post by stephen500 »

Just enough time for the 28 days to expire?
Will that mean a new ballot?
A ballot which i hope the union will win, but doubt it will do.
Too many weak people out there who will throw in the towel at the earliest opportunity.
I just hope the cwu knows what it is doing.
5 weeks for RM to recruit agency and casual staff and to train managers to drive 740s.
They better come up with a deal that is much better then the terms offered.
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Post by arsenalbob »

so some progress must have been made or the union would have knocked the talks on the head
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Post by peedofpostie »

why extend the talks :mad surely they have both had enough time to resolve these matters 3 weeks not long enough for both of them they are both as bad as each other :shock: we wil still get hung out to dry anyway :d'oh!
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Post by vigilante »

arsenalbob wrote:so some progress must have been made or the union would have knocked the talks on the head




YES BUT HOW FAVOURABLE MATE?? :neutral:
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Post by pinstripe »

5 more days of talks. They must be trying to work out how to tell us "You're screwed!"
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Post by cruisey »

I'm very sceptical at the moment. Remember that any action would have to be announced by tomorrow, so it seems to me an agreement is 99% certain. I really hope that all the action taken in the strike period is to no avail.
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Post by nelson »

5 more days of talks. They must be trying to work out how to tell us "You're screwed!"
It will take them that time to phrase it as to be interpreted different ways to everyone that reads it. :d'oh! :d'oh! :d'oh! :d'oh! :d'oh! :d'oh!
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Post by Bloke7 »

We really have to be patient on this one. I know it's frustrating not to get answers, but it's better to react when the actual information is given out when the negotiations have completed.

Rumour does us no good; and most of it isn't true. Just ask your DOM for some rumours, he or she is usually good at those :P

Just be patient and if it's crap when it comes about, THEN have a bloody good moan :)
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Post by dvbuk55 »

k66yla wrote:Image
Just exactly how I feel! If they haven't found me in the last 3 WEEKS of talks then I think I'll start eating my left leg.

Surely to God they have reached some conclusions - you can talk to someone for two minutes and know what there stance is! This isn't some sort of relationship building exercise.
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Post by postie28 »

[quote="cruisey Remember that any action would have to be announced by tomorrow.



getting a bad feeling about this. sold down the old swannee i fear.
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Industrial action ballots and notice to employers

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Reading the above at

http://www.berr.gov.uk/files/file18013.pdf

Paragraph 52 says
52. Where continuous industrial action is suspended, for example for further negotiations between the employer and union, the union must normally give the employer a further notice as in paragraphs 50 and 51 above before resuming the action. There is an exception to this requirement to give further notice, however, where the union agrees with the employer that the industrial action will cease to be authorised or endorsed with effect from a date specified in the agreement but may be authorised or endorsed again on or after another date specified in the agreement and the union:-

• ceases to authorise or endorse the action with effect from the specified date; and

• subsequently re-authorises or reendorses the action from a date on or after the originally specified date or such later date as may be agreed with
the employer. For this exception to apply, the resumed industrial action must be of the same kind as covered in the original notice.
That will not be so if, for example, the later action is taken by different or additional descriptions of workers. In order to avoid misunderstanding, both parties may find it
helpful for such agreements to be in writing.
So we may not need a re-ballot :pray We just have to give them the usual 7 days notice.
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Re: Industrial action ballots and notice to employers

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Reading the above at

http://www.berr.gov.uk/files/file18013.pdf

Paragraph 52 says
52. Where continuous industrial action is suspended, for example for further negotiations between the employer and union, the union must normally give the employer a further notice as in paragraphs 50 and 51 above before resuming the action. There is an exception to this requirement to give further notice, however, where the union agrees with the employer that the industrial action will cease to be authorised or endorsed with effect from a date specified in the agreement but may be authorised or endorsed again on or after another date specified in the agreement and the union:-

• ceases to authorise or endorse the action with effect from the specified date; and

• subsequently re-authorises or reendorses the action from a date on or after the originally specified date or such later date as may be agreed with
the employer. For this exception to apply, the resumed industrial action must be of the same kind as covered in the original notice.
That will not be so if, for example, the later action is taken by different or additional descriptions of workers. In order to avoid misunderstanding, both parties may find it
helpful for such agreements to be in writing.
So we may not need a re-ballot :pray We just have to give them the usual 7 days notice.

thank f*** for that




thank f*** for that
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Post by dogfood »

I have a horrible feeling the union will be asking us to bend over and take a good shafting soon. :mad

I hope not but the longer the silence prevails the less confidence I have.