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Row over Badly Parked Vans

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POST Office workers have been blasted for parking vans ‘dangerously’ in Darwen town centre’s busiest road.

Residents are worried someone will be killed or seriously injured as they try to navigate their way around the vans parked on double yellow lanes and on the pavement outside the town’s main post office in The Circus. :left:

Royal Mail bosses say it is necessary to park the vans outside the building temporarily as staff load and unload deliveries.

Concerned resident Russell Rickard said: “That is a bad bend with double yellow lines, and yet every day I see Post Office vans parked there, obstructing the way. It’s getting beyond a joke – it’s so blatant.

“It’s by a busy pedestrian crossing and pavement and is forcing people to walk into the road and someone’s going to end up getting squashed.

“My two nephews walk that way to school in the morning and I’m concerned about their safety.”

Sunnyhurst Coun Dave Smith said concerns had also been raised with him about Post Office vans taking up shopper parking spaces in nearby Borough Road.

He said: “I don’t know where all the vans have come from, we never used to have these problems. The vans need to be parked somewhere else if they are causing danger and inconvenience.”

The matter is to go before Blackburn with Darwen Council’s planning and highways committee next week, where it is recommended members impose a one-hour restriction in Borough Road.

A Royal Mail spokesperson said: “Our staff always aim to park their vehicles safely and to minimise the disruption to other road users and pedestrians.

“It is necessary to sometimes park the vehicles directly outside Darwen Delivery Office for short periods of time whilst they are loaded and unloaded. Our staff aim to carry out this work as quickly as possible to minimise the disruption.”

New equipment such as trolleys and special vans has been introduced recently in Darwen to cope with heavy deliveries.
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clashcityrocker wrote: He said: “I don’t know where all the vans have come from, we never used to have these problems.
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New equipment such as trolleys and special vans has been introduced recently in Darwen to cope with heavy deliveries.
What heavy deliveries????? I didn't think there where any heavy deliveries anymore, what with all the falling mail volumes :whistle
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Post Office vehicle can park anywhere during the course of their duties, Crown Immunity, let see how the Council can argue against the Queen.
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NWpostie wrote:Post Office vehicle can park anywhere during the course of their duties, Crown Immunity, let see how the Council can argue against the Queen.

sorry mate but your wrong there.
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youwot!!!!! wrote:
NWpostie wrote:Post Office vehicle can park anywhere during the course of their duties, Crown Immunity, let see how the Council can argue against the Queen.

sorry mate but your wrong there.

your right there pal some one in our office got a fine for parking on double yellows ! the management didnt give a toss when he explained there was no where else to park !
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NWpostie wrote:Post Office vehicle can park anywhere during the course of their duties, Crown Immunity, let see how the Council can argue against the Queen.
By virtue of the 2001 Regulations these exemptions no longer apply specifically to Royal Mail vehicles. Instead references to Royal Mail or Post Office vehicles are to be construed as references to vehicles of Universal Service Providers. Because of this amendment, which was promoted by HMPG, there is in effect no special privilege for
Royal Mail, which would not also be applicable to other USP's.

Exemptions from waiting and loading restrictions are not given automatically but are granted by Highway Authorities as part of the proper exercise of their discretion under the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984.
Highway Authorities quite properly require evidence to show that there is a genuine operational need before deciding to grant an exemption. The nature of Royal Mail’s operations is such that they cannot be efficiently carried out by taking advantage of general exemptions normally contained in Traffic Orders.

Example - A Traffic Management scheme often provides that loading and unloading can only take place before 10am and after 6pm. This would not assist in clearing a heavily posted City Centre pillar-box, which needs to be cleared at regular intervals during the day. (Even though the numbers of box collections have been reduced, mail still needs to be cleared from heavily posted boxes throughout the day otherwise they become full.) Also deliveries of mail to heavy receivers of mail cannot always be carried out prior to 10am. Moreover many heavy business posters rely on Royal Mail vehicle collections during the course of the afternoon particularly between 4pm and 6pm.

Parcelforce Worldwide do not generally have the benefit of exemption from traffic regulations and Royal Mail has never requested such exemptions.

Conclusions:
1. Royal Mail does not have a special privilege by virtue of exemption from Traffic Regulations. Such "privileges" apply to all USP's;
2. Such exemptions are not automatic and have to be justified;
3. Parcelforce Worldwide do not claim or enjoy the benefit of such exemptions;
4. Exemptions are necessary for the purposes of providing an efficient delivery and collection service and if denied quality of service to the senders and receivers of mail will be prejudiced;

Which basically means...any exemption has to be separately applied for....for each particular area.
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"Residents are worried someone will be killed or seriously injured as they try to navigate their way around the vans parked on double yellow lanes and on the pavement outside the town’s main post office in The Circus.
Royal Mail bosses say it is necessary to park the vans outside the building temporarily as staff load and unload deliveries.
Concerned resident Russell Rickard said: “That is a bad bend with double yellow lines, and yet every day I see Post Office vans parked there, obstructing the way. It’s getting beyond a joke – it’s so blatant." :crazy:
and when the Post office has closed, just like all Post Offices in Holland will have closed by October, they will have something else to moan about. :crazy: :nana :crazy:
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swintonpostie wrote:
youwot!!!!! wrote:
NWpostie wrote:Post Office vehicle can park anywhere during the course of their duties, Crown Immunity, let see how the Council can argue against the Queen.

sorry mate but your wrong there.

your right there pal some one in our office got a fine for parking on double yellows ! the management didnt give a toss when he explained there was no where else to park !

just like when I asked how can you design a P&L duty in an area with no parking :wink:
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youwot!!!!! wrote:
NWpostie wrote:Post Office vehicle can park anywhere during the course of their duties, Crown Immunity, let see how the Council can argue against the Queen.

sorry mate but your wrong there.
but 'Crown Immunity' still works locally with the Old Bill who don't know any different. :nana :nana
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Lounge Lizard wrote:
youwot!!!!! wrote:
NWpostie wrote:Post Office vehicle can park anywhere during the course of their duties, Crown Immunity, let see how the Council can argue against the Queen.

sorry mate but your wrong there.
but 'Crown Immunity' still works locally with the Old Bill who don't know any different. :nana :nana
and the parking wardens, unless you work for Parcelforce......one of the local wardens gave the PF driver a ticket accusing him of sticking a false crown to the front of his van because it had a white background :chuckle
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what do we think of this parking?
and just so you know - yes they were parked on double yellows!
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Common sense and discretion should play a part, as these self same Police Officers and Traffic wardens post and recieve mail, which if they disrupt, would it not be "obstructing the Queen's Mail ?" ditto for the service providers theat supplies food, clothes to shops.

If this goes on there may well be no service whatsoever in the urban centres, in some towns where the Town Halls have taken over parking enforcements, it was enforced zealously with an aim to make a profit from it, not traffic safety, it was so bad that visiting shoppers have stopped coming,
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Its not exactly the most spacious loading area

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