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Postman in riots looting.

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Riots: Meet the accused
Lifeguard, postman, hairdresser, teacher, millionaire's daughter, chef and schoolboy, 11

RIOTERS and looters will be booted out of their council homes, the Government said yesterday.
Housing minister Grant Shapps plans to extend powers to evict "neighbours from hell" to include riot yobs.
He said: "They need to realise they could lose their homes."
Mr Shapps vowed to support councils and housing associations who throw out rioters.
and he revealed several councils, including Greenwich and Hammersmith and Fulham, are already looking at the plans.

Meanwhile, more than 78,000 people had signed a petition on the No10 website last night demanding rioters lose benefits.
The site crashed later as thousands more tried logging on.
If more than 100,000 back the campaign, the Commons must consider holding a debate.

'Vigilante' residents on guard
HUNDREDS of defiant residents were patrolling the streets to stop rioters again last night.


At least 300 were expected in Enfield, North London, after they successfully helped prevent trouble on Tuesday.


Resident Alan Bissell, 34, said: "We're not vigilantes, we are just proud of the neighbourhood and want to protect it."


On Tuesday hundreds of Sikhs formed a shield around their temple in Southall, West London, after it was rumoured to be on the looters' hitlist.


Around 100 men stood guard in Eltham, South East London. Shopkeepers in Hackney and Kentish Town carried weapons.


But Met Deputy Assistant Commissioner Steve Kavanagh asked vigilantes to stop. He said: "Some have been drinking and we have to police them too. It's taking policing resources away."



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Riots: Meet the accused
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A MILLIONAIRE'S daughter and a teaching assistant landed in court on looting charges yesterday - along with jobless teens from sink estates.
A boy of 11 and people from a variety of professions were also facing justice over London's mayhem.

Meanwhile, a father pleaded for calm after his son and two pals were mown down and killed by a car during a second night of rioting in Birmingham.

The teenage girl hauled into court for allegedly being part of a mob of 200 looters is the privileged daughter of millionaire parents.

Laura Johnson, 19 - one of dozens to appear in court yesterday - is said to have been arrested behind the wheel of a car filled with stolen electrical goods, cigarettes and alcohol worth £5,500.

Police say she was driving away from shops in Charlton, South East London, ransacked by masked thugs from crime-ridden estates nearby.
Plush farmhouse ... gates at home of Laura Johnson, who is charged in connection with looting in Charlton, South East London
But yesterday it was revealed Johnson lives with her company director parents in a £1million farmhouse in Orpington, Kent.

The three-storey home is set back behind security gates and has a tennis court and outbuildings.
Accused ... Laura Johnson, 19
Johnson was remanded in custody by Bexley magistrates after she denied stealing TV sets, a Blu-Ray player and mobile phones from Currys and Comet and cigarettes and alcohol from a BP garage.


Her dad Robert, 55, and mum Lindsay, 54, who run market research firms, refused to comment. Lindsay said: "We don't want to talk."

Privately-educated Johnson has two brothers. Neighbour David Turner said: "They are a nice, respectable family. They never caused any problems."

Johnson was arrested on Monday night with Alexander Elliott-Joahill, 18, and a 17-year-old. They allegedly had balaclavas and scarves to hide their faces from CCTV.

The youngest looter hauled before the London courts is a boy of 11 who grabbed a £50 waste bin from a trashed Debenhams store.



Youngest ... boy of 11 at London court yesterday
The lad, who cannot be named because of his age, admitted stealing the bin as yobs rampaged through Romford, Essex, on Monday night.

Prosecutor Steven Davis said: "Police saw him approach a window that had been smashed, lean in, take a waste bin and run off with it." When grabbed by officers the boy said: "I was taking it to pass on to someone else."

Highbury Youth Court was told the boy had been convicted of a separate offence only a week earlier.

His mum swore and yelled abuse as she left court. His dad is said to have been recently released from prison after serving time for theft.


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The boy's grandfather described him as "a smashing lad". He added: "He just got involved. I blame all this Facebook and Twitter."

A rioter police caught red-handed looting a Croydon electrical store is a teaching assistant responsible for looking after problem children.

Alex Bailey, 31, who admitted burglary, works at a school in Stockwell motivating pupils with poor attendance records and emotional difficulties. Magistrates in Highbury heard Bailey had a previous conviction for criminal damage.

Bailey, like the vast majority of the looting suspects hauled before the courts, was remanded in custody pending either sentencing or a trial.



School worker ... shamed Alexis Bailey, 31
He lives with his Jehovah's Witness mum Andree in Battersea. Neighbour Hermine Caesar, 55, said: "This isn't in Alex's nature. A mum could not wish for a better son than him. He must have been caught up in the spur of the moment."

An 18-year-old trainee hairdresser who stormed a clothes store in Bethnal Green was warned yesterday he would go to jail after breaching a previous suspended sentence for a racist public order offence. Jack Onslow, who admitted burglary, was found hiding in the shop.

Lifeguard Aaron Mulholland, 30, sobbed in the dock yesterday as a court was told he helped pillage a mobile phone shop in Camberwell.

The horrified mum of teenage twins remanded in custody yesterday for allegedly looting a Currys store said she thought they were at a local gym during the riots.

Linette Livingstone, 58, said she was stunned to learn sons Icha and Micha, 19, had been arrested in Brixton.

She added: "They are good boys.They were just in the area but the police rounded everyone up and they're in prison. It will kill them."

A postman and his student nephew admitted stealing two laptops and a Blackberry after police caught them sitting in a car with their loot near ransacked Croydon electrical stores.

Jeffery Ebanks, 32, and Jamal Ebanks, 18, refused to leave the car and had to be dragged out after officers smashed its windows.




'Good boys' ... Icha and Micha Livingstone
An organic chef was yesterday accused of smashing up a branch of the Nando's chicken restaurant chain. Fitzroy Thomas, 43, and brother Ronald, 47, denied attacking the Clapham store.

Two looters caught with £1,500 of power tools in a trolley told police they did not care if they were stolen.

Richard Myles-Palmer, 19, and Jason White, 22, said to officers in Southwark: "We're taking them anyway." In London alone, 251 suspects have been charged with looting. Dozens have already appeared in court - and many have come up with ludicrous excuses.

Jason Matthews, who was wrestled to the ground by police in a ransacked Tesco in East Dulwich, insisted he was merely trying to buy nappies for his baby.



Student David Attoh, 18, was one of the few accused to be freed - even though he admitted stealing two T-shirts. Magistrates accepted his tale that he found the shirts in a Hackney street.

Suspect David Benjamin, 25, claimed he had stolen ski goggles to protect his eyes from flying glass in Ealing.

A teenager accused of attempted burglary used his Croydon court appearance to complain about his benefits.

Aaron Samuels, 19, shouted at the judge: "I don't even get money for housing benefit."

In Manchester, two yobs involved in Tuesday night's rioting are already behind bars.

Greater Manchester Police sent a message out on Twitter saying: "Swift justice. The first of many."

At least 15 people have been arrested across the UK after allegedly using social media sites to incite riots. Twitter, Facebook and BlackBerry messenger were all used by rioters to communicate during the unrest.



A MAN mistakenly included in a police rogues gallery of rioters yesterday is really a hero who chased away looters. Karin Chaoui bravely defended his boss's jewellers in Crystal Palace.


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That's terrible. There's not a Bullingdon Club member, political activist or even a down-trodden member of the proletariat any where in that list.
What's the SWP or Morningstaronline readership going to (be told to ) think now....? :hmmmm

"Workers of the world unite, you've nothing to lose but that old flip top Nokia and that's like so last-year innit" to paraphrase some old big-bearded Victorian mug.... :shhhhh
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Tman wrote:That's terrible. There's not a Bullingdon Club member, political activist or even a down-trodden member of the proletariat any where in that list.
What's the SWP or Morningstaronline readership going to (be told to ) think now....? :hmmmm

"Workers of the world unite, you've nothing to lose but that old flip top Nokia and that's like so last-year innit" to paraphrase some old big-bearded Victorian mug.... :shhhhh
and who told you what to think?...and what is your point? what elements
of the riots were about was a reflection of the me,me,me society that we live in and this goes from top to bottom-
lets not forget about the police taking bribes from news international and what about MPs expenses and tax evasion
from the super rich? theres plenty looting going on further up the food chain....anyway back to the coconut shy
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So the life-guard, postie and the rest did it because of bent coppers, MP's expenses and rich people?

Doesn't really sound likely, but I'll reserve judgement until I've seen the expanded version of your point.... :whistle
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Funny how all these people, children in particular were "good people" before they commited these crimes? :Boo hoo!
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Tman wrote:So the life-guard, postie and the rest did it because of bent coppers, MP's expenses and rich people?

Doesn't really sound likely, but I'll reserve judgement until I've seen the expanded version of your point.... :whistle
What dosnt sound likely? all of the above has happened!? so its factual no? ie opportunist theft from all levels of our society
cant really make it any clearer than that. :roll:
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So opportunist thieving has always happened...fair enough, so then tell me the connection with SWP, MPs, bent coppers etc.
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Anyone confused,the comments i'm guessing is a follow on from the London riots thread in the canteen.
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Tman wrote:So opportunist thieving has always happened...fair enough, so then tell me the connection with SWP, MPs, bent coppers etc.
i already have told you the connection? and your the only one who has mentioned the SWP so you tell me their connection? but i wouldnt have thought it would have done them any favours if they condoned working people burning down other working peoples homes.....
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POSTMAN wrote:Anyone confused,the comments i'm guessing is a follow on from the London riots thread in the canteen.

this must be the "carpark thread" then :hmmmm
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i already have told you the connection?
The ? at the end of your sentence implies you're not sure, and I must admit I haven't seen any explanation from you. When was it?

and your the only one who has mentioned the SWP so you tell me their connection?


Yes I did, and if you read it maybe you'll understand. What I don't understand is what your reference to bent coppers and MPs had to do with it. Is there some connection in your opinion, or did you just feel the need to post something/anything?
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wayoutman wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:Anyone confused,the comments i'm guessing is a follow on from the London riots thread in the canteen.

this must be the "carpark thread" then :hmmmm
Isn't it referred to as the "Carpet-Riots" now? :whistle
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Tman wrote:
i already have told you the connection?
The ? at the end of your sentence implies you're not sure, and I must admit I haven't seen any explanation from you. When was it?

and your the only one who has mentioned the SWP so you tell me their connection?


Yes I did, and if you read it maybe you'll understand. What I don't understand is what your reference to bent coppers and MPs had to do with it. Is there some connection in your opinion, or did you just feel the need to post something/anything?
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i suppose the do gooders are blaming thatcher for these poor innocent souls having to raid a shop for a waste bin or a telly. there is no excuse for anyfing what these no good twats have dun
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This county is rotten to the core, MP's loot the public purse and think if they say sorry and make a cheque out thats ok.

the police have been shown to be corrupt, newspapers break the law on a regular basis, and they are all now screaming from the rooftops!!

what moral example are we being set here?