TO JOIN THE CWU OR NOT TO JOIN

[randompostman]

Everyone should join the CWU if they are a postie, you might never need them but on the other hand you might and if you are not a member then the managers can do their worst and you wont be able to do anything about it on our own.

[krussel]

As others have said the CWU have not been all that good nationally in most recent times but locally i think its a must and should be viewed as an insurance policy for when things go wrong and you find yourself on the wrong side of Royal Mail.


This current thread is a fair example :

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[R@YAL F@IL]

im a new starter just waiting on start date but im wondering is it worth the money off your wages to join the cwu or is it not worth it.
do they help you in anyway or do they take a memership fee to do naff all would like to hear your comments please.

been a joiner since i left school 16 years ago and never had to join anything like this so havent a clue about the union

JOIN NOW, there are many benefits when it comes to legal representation as the CWU have their own solicitors if indeed you were involved in an accident or just wanted free advice on anything legal.

Good Luck in your employment matey

[hannie2002]

thanks for that mate will i have to wait for payroll number before i can join tho mate

[R@YAL F@IL]

thanks for that mate will i have to wait for payroll number before i can join tho mate

When I joined 21 years ago I just gave my pay number and ever since the CWU have been good to and for me but to answer your question just look on your notice board at work if your office rep is not there or even go on the CWU website to obtain a number to phone.

[Cheetah]

Please don't delay JOIN..... This comes from someone who has been an active trade unionist all my working life but also had an employment and attendance record second to none. After the last national agreement i tore my card up in disgust and withdrew from the union on principal, thinking the only reason to be in the union is if you do something wrong, and i have kept my nose clean for 30 odd years so i'll be okay. Wrong!!!! we can all slip up in the quest to get the job done. Since then i have been subjected to horrendous bullying (oh sorry it's not called that when managers do it) and set up by management..... I have since swollowed my pride and rejoined (though i have not asked for retrospective representation i made my bed and i'll lie in it) and it's good to feel help will be there when i need it the next time. The union is far from perfect, even the times dictate that no trade union will enjoy past powers, but there are still a lot of good people in it and it's kinda strange in our office only two people have faced severe disciplinary action both who withdrew from the union when the gaffers Toadies get away with much worse offences without a hint of discipline..... You can work your socks off in this industry but if some of the managers take a disliking to you or you upset them they will target you and the support of the union and it's members will be invaluable

[lillywhite]

Always been a strong advocate of unions,but this one is pitifully poor.Do your job properly and you wont need it.

[clashcityrocker]

Always been a strong advocate of unions,but this one is pitifully poor.Do your job properly and you wont need it.

Unless you go sick
or have an accident
or get bitten by a dog
or never get given a Saturday off
or need time off for dependants
or get grief from a colleague
or make a mistake

No. You are probably right. As long as he just does his job properly he won't need to know the correct procedure for any of these eventualities or need anyone to help him out.

[fishtank]

No. You are probably right. As long as he just does his job properly he won't need to know the correct procedure for any of these eventualities or need anyone to help him out.

I can see his logic,you only need to be wearing your seatbelt when you actually have an accident.
As long as he can see at least a week into the future he'll be fine. .

[lillywhite]

Just read the forums,jobs going to hell in a handcart,unions done fk all,never have in my 12years,they get thrown the odd small sweetner and claim a victory.Just look at what they call "the deal of the century".Laughable.

[krussel]

Just read the forums,jobs going to hell in a handcart,unions done fk all,never have in my 12years,they get thrown the odd small sweetner and claim a victory.Just look at what they call "the deal of the century".Laughable.

Yep all true enough

However get sick for a few days in your first 6 months and then see how you make out without a rep backing you up.

[POSTMAN]

Ironic,most join or stay not because of the union itself,but because of Royal Mail.
Royal Mail is the best recruiter for the union,funny as f**k.

[randompostman]

Ironic,most join or stay not because of the union itself,but because of Royal Mail.
Royal Mail is the best recruiter for the union,funny as f**k.

I think it is a bit sad myself when we can only recruit for what they as future members can get out of it rather than what "WE" can achieve together, but for myself i still hope those future members realise it is US not I that really makes any Union instead of being cynical about the whole thing.

[MrPPatt]

Yup - I agree. Join the CWU - its a no-brainer for £1.80 per week. Quick and simple to join - fee taken out of pay-packet automatically.

From what I have heard here, RM will not help or support you in some situations where you will need it. Furthermore, in some branches there seems to be abuse and bullying to a worrying degree and it could be vital to be able to call on a rep to be a witness and who know the rules. We are in a job where a mistake or rash action could result, not just in dismissal, but in criminal charges. Important to have someone with access to (expensive) legal advice and support on your side.

Personally I think every worker should join a union for the solidarity, and that if you join you should take the rough with the smooth and always obey strike action that has been voted in - even if you do not agree yourself

Patt :]

[DH73]

Join the CWU. No ifs, no buts, just do it.

I've got Asperger Syndrome, and despite what RM write in the Courier, managers (especially my lino) will bully, lie and hassle all the more. My reps are fantastic, and have helped me so many times. In fact, I think my rep cares far more about me than my lino.

A bloke in our office got sacked for signing for a special on his pda, the SD then went missing. Our rep said that he could have got him off, but he wasn't in the union and refused to join even when in trouble.

With RM turning up the heat on us posties, and trying to blame us for the spectacular failure of park and loop revisions, we need to support the CWU more than ever before.