Dear Colleague
Royal Mail Letters Pay Negotiations
Talks continued late last week and Royal Mail said they could improve the lump sums on offer by a further £50. This offer was rejected.
The negotiating team have told Royal Mail that unless they change their whole approach to these negotiations and return to last year's agreed strategy for moving pay and change forward there is no possibility of us reaching an agreement.
The meeting concluded with Royal Mails negotiating team saying that they would have to go back to the board to consider their options and that they would contact the CWU this week.
The Union's Postal Executive will also be meeting tomorrow to consider a timetable for a National Industrial Action Ballot.
We have also been advised that the 92 pence per week Efficiency consolidation money is now due to be paid into Basic Pay on the 7th May.
Further updates will be sent out in due course.
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Pay offer latest:Union E-mail
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POSTMAN
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Pay offer latest:Union E-mail
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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POSTMAN
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My rep and the SE guys have a meeting tomorrow,out of hours as they did not get release time about London going out.
He thinks that London could be out in 3 weeks.
He thinks that London could be out in 3 weeks.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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It's to do with our last savings or summin like that...............enjoydinho1 wrote:what is this 92 pence thing ? please explain and how much back will we get?
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Minus TAXdinho1 wrote:so if my maths are right its about £42 or summats
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Pay rise?
92p per week...............don't forget you gotta pay tax on that! Well, if we didn't have these so called managers buying these companies a good few years ago, I doubt we would be in the mess we are now. So, where has all the money gone from our pension fund? Instead of investing in these companies and changing the company name, why didn't they just stick the money in a fruit machine or maybe place a bet on an outsider down the local bookies?
What really gets me, the goverment bring in this Postcom to regulate the businesses. Yet, we have got to lose so much business to undercut these companies. What really makes me smile, so to speak, the goverment know about this big hole in our pension fund. Yet now they use another postal company to process their mail! I just think all the restrictions bought in by Postcom is not just so to give other postal companies a chance to compete but it's a ploy by the goverment to push for privitisation!
Royal Mail make it so the customer blame the first line staff. I feel sorry for customers because the customer service has gone downhill something cronic as well as the qaulity of service! But then it's us the firstline staff who end up with the flak from unhappy customers.
19 years I've worked for this company and to think that one time Royal Mail was a world known name with one of or the best postal service in the world. Now you look at this company who does give two sh*ts about it's customers let alone the employees. Morale must be at it's all time low which again affects the business. Mr Croziar should know from experience of being in the FA, that when a club is struggling so does the morale of the players! Mr Leighton should of learnt that where Leeds United were concerned but let's not go there! I don't want to annoy any Leeds fans out there. Anyway, I wonder if anything made sense or was I just a babbling on about nothing! But you do say, "Have your say!!"
What really gets me, the goverment bring in this Postcom to regulate the businesses. Yet, we have got to lose so much business to undercut these companies. What really makes me smile, so to speak, the goverment know about this big hole in our pension fund. Yet now they use another postal company to process their mail! I just think all the restrictions bought in by Postcom is not just so to give other postal companies a chance to compete but it's a ploy by the goverment to push for privitisation!
Royal Mail make it so the customer blame the first line staff. I feel sorry for customers because the customer service has gone downhill something cronic as well as the qaulity of service! But then it's us the firstline staff who end up with the flak from unhappy customers.
19 years I've worked for this company and to think that one time Royal Mail was a world known name with one of or the best postal service in the world. Now you look at this company who does give two sh*ts about it's customers let alone the employees. Morale must be at it's all time low which again affects the business. Mr Croziar should know from experience of being in the FA, that when a club is struggling so does the morale of the players! Mr Leighton should of learnt that where Leeds United were concerned but let's not go there! I don't want to annoy any Leeds fans out there. Anyway, I wonder if anything made sense or was I just a babbling on about nothing! But you do say, "Have your say!!"
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Nanbling No
I don't think you were babbling as I think the majority of posties feel exactly the same as you.
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Jasonam, I agree with TBT..
You just spoke your mind which is in this case CORRECT!!
There is a bigger picture from the goverment with Us The Royal Mail.. Back door privatising, slashing profits now and slashing the workforce, then skimming off the top when This bullshit PART PRIVATISING comes in???? The devide and conquer tattic is all there to see!! They dont care about our pensions or jobs or anything apart from there next term in power!! And the chance to make the profits they underhandedly work at now!! The Cons were as bad if not worse but they at least had the front to tell us when we were f****d!! This lot all come out of the OLD Labour ranks/CWU/Unionists.. This i find discusting!!
... Use your Local Votes on may 3rd well.. Have some say over your local election..
This is what we should do in the CWU look after our local reps and be strong as a unit 1st!!! DONT wait for the HQ to get there arse in gear... Front line action works, Make the HQ listen to US Not the other way round!!!
OUT
DONT LET THE BASTARDS GRIND US DOWN!!!
There is a bigger picture from the goverment with Us The Royal Mail.. Back door privatising, slashing profits now and slashing the workforce, then skimming off the top when This bullshit PART PRIVATISING comes in???? The devide and conquer tattic is all there to see!! They dont care about our pensions or jobs or anything apart from there next term in power!! And the chance to make the profits they underhandedly work at now!! The Cons were as bad if not worse but they at least had the front to tell us when we were f****d!! This lot all come out of the OLD Labour ranks/CWU/Unionists.. This i find discusting!!
... Use your Local Votes on may 3rd well.. Have some say over your local election.. This is what we should do in the CWU look after our local reps and be strong as a unit 1st!!! DONT wait for the HQ to get there arse in gear... Front line action works, Make the HQ listen to US Not the other way round!!!
OUT
DONT LET THE BASTARDS GRIND US DOWN!!!
L TOMMO.... ILLEGITIMIS NON CARBORUNDUM........
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Here here!
Yeah, we shouldn't let them grind ya' down! But a think that Royal Mail should be looking at the bigger picture. Take a look how the frontline staff are being treated and why morale is so low!
Another thing to gripe about is the CWU. They seem not to be doing much these days. We don't get informed about much to be honest. What really goes off at these meetings is beyond me. Do they actually sit and discuss our pay deal or is it idle chit chat? One unionrep was coming round asking the staff to sign a petition about the closure of a PDO. I thought to myself, what a total waste of time and a total waste of CWU members money! What is a petition, put forward from the staff, actually goin' to achieve? They don't listen now let alone handing them a shitty petition signed by Royal Mail employees! I just don't understand some of the logic of our CWU at times.
But on the otherhand they have rejected these sh*tty pay offers but then as we know Royal Mail eventually get their own way! Oh well, we can thank Mr Leighton who had, allegedly, turned the business round? More like round in a big circle! All it was, wa a cost cutting exercise which anyone could do and now we're paying for these cost cutting excercises. So, I would like us to put our glasses in the air to Mr Leighton and Mr Croziar for makes the postman's lives living hell and for the big black hole in our pension! Oh, and not forgetting our job security as well! He's been worth every penny! NOT!
Another thing to gripe about is the CWU. They seem not to be doing much these days. We don't get informed about much to be honest. What really goes off at these meetings is beyond me. Do they actually sit and discuss our pay deal or is it idle chit chat? One unionrep was coming round asking the staff to sign a petition about the closure of a PDO. I thought to myself, what a total waste of time and a total waste of CWU members money! What is a petition, put forward from the staff, actually goin' to achieve? They don't listen now let alone handing them a shitty petition signed by Royal Mail employees! I just don't understand some of the logic of our CWU at times.
But on the otherhand they have rejected these sh*tty pay offers but then as we know Royal Mail eventually get their own way! Oh well, we can thank Mr Leighton who had, allegedly, turned the business round? More like round in a big circle! All it was, wa a cost cutting exercise which anyone could do and now we're paying for these cost cutting excercises. So, I would like us to put our glasses in the air to Mr Leighton and Mr Croziar for makes the postman's lives living hell and for the big black hole in our pension! Oh, and not forgetting our job security as well! He's been worth every penny! NOT!
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92p extra
Dino and Jasonam this 92p is nothing to do with this years pay rise ,it is money owed from the existing efficiency scheme,dont ask me what thats all about as im not to sure and dont want to mislead any one .There is NO offer on basic pay, instead a lump sum ranging between £250/£550 and the union must agree to £350 million of cuts and new flexible working practices.
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Re: 92p extra
Apparently the top offer is now £600 as if that is going to make a difference. I have a feeling that RM are trying to get us to strike, I don't know why, but it is a feeling that keeps getting stronger.johnnypick wrote:Dino and Jasonam this 92p is nothing to do with this years pay rise ,it is money owed from the existing efficiency scheme,dont ask me what thats all about as im not to sure and dont want to mislead any one .There is NO offer on basic pay, instead a lump sum ranging between £250/£550 and the union must agree to £350 million of cuts and new flexible working practices.
However, I think we do need to make a stand and the union needs to start communicating better with the shop floor.
Also the union needs to start thinking strategically. Can we tighten the screw slowly instead of going straight to a strike ballot ?
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Work to rule or all out?
Its a tough call lads but previous shows that all out solves things quickly.Will it be the case now ,we shall see.
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I think we should have struck while the iron was hot!!!!!!!!
We had a consultative Ballot last year and the result was published at the Annual Conference and 98% of the returns agreed to possibly taking part in Industrial Action, now I'm sure we all agree that no one should lose money but with a response like that the CWU should have been pushing for a better deal instead of letting R.M off the hook.
It's time to take a stand all across the country and stick to our guns and if you need any more encouragement to do this just look at the Burslem Boys, THEY HAVE FOUGHT AND FOUGHT TO GET THE RIGHT THING DONE & I ONLY WISH THE REST OF THE COUNTRY WAS AS STRONG AS THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We had a consultative Ballot last year and the result was published at the Annual Conference and 98% of the returns agreed to possibly taking part in Industrial Action, now I'm sure we all agree that no one should lose money but with a response like that the CWU should have been pushing for a better deal instead of letting R.M off the hook.
It's time to take a stand all across the country and stick to our guns and if you need any more encouragement to do this just look at the Burslem Boys, THEY HAVE FOUGHT AND FOUGHT TO GET THE RIGHT THING DONE & I ONLY WISH THE REST OF THE COUNTRY WAS AS STRONG AS THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!