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30/06/2011. General strike.

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Re: 30/06/2011. General strike.

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clashcityrocker wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote: Yes it does and times too are changing and we must not hark back to what was but concentrate on the here, now and future.
Without the knowledge of your history, you cannot determine your destiny.
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dvbuk55 wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote: Yes it does and times too are changing and we must not hark back to what was but concentrate on the here, now and future.
Without the knowledge of your history, you cannot determine your destiny.
And what part of history is going to determine my destiny.......only the most recent events determine destiny at all.
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Re: 30/06/2011. General strike.

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote: Yes it does and times too are changing and we must not hark back to what was but concentrate on the here, now and future.
Without the knowledge of your history, you cannot determine your destiny.
And what part of history is going to determine my destiny.......only the most recent events determine destiny at all.
A man a lot wiser than me once said - "Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it." — Winston S. Churchill
Very wise, then I have heard so many wise words in my lifetime - I was actually on parade on the route of Churchills funeral in 1965 - that was history I suppose, now what did I learn from that........ :hmmmm .................give me time I'm sure I'll come up with something. Now how do we evaluate history? How far back do we go to judge the relevance..........1 year, 2, 10, a generation, a lifetime, a century........more?
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Re: 30/06/2011. General strike.

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Come now DV, don't you appreciate what a noble gesture it was for a load of Ox-bridge students to go and stick thier idealistic noses into Spain's internal politics in the 1930s, and how relevant thier "sacrifice" was? :left:
'Course, at the time they believed the future was actually happening in the USSR and that that nice Mr Marx had all the answers for the new world order....

Yep, we can all learn something from that load of knob-ends...."shoot at a bloke with a gun and he'll shoot back", but then those Spanish never did play fair... :left:
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Re: 30/06/2011. General strike.

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Tman wrote:Come now DV, don't you appreciate what a noble gesture it was for a load of Ox-bridge students to go and stick thier idealistic noses into Spain's internal politics in the 1930s, and how relevant thier "sacrifice" was? :left:
'Course, at the time they believed the future was actually happening in the USSR and that that nice Mr Marx had all the answers for the new world order....

Yep, we can all learn something from that load of knob-ends...."shoot at a bloke with a gun and he'll shoot back", but then those Spanish never did play fair... :left:
Most of them were smart enough to know what was coming for Britain, and the rest of Europe, if a democratically elected government was successful overturned by fascists. And they were right. Unlike the clowns, both east and west, who took an 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' attitude and ended up very nearly seeing all of Europe fall to fascism. These people weren't 'knob-ends', they were fighting for at least a scrap of the freedom we enjoy today.
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Re: 30/06/2011. General strike.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvjoWOwnn4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A message from 70 years ago by Charlie Chaplin`s final speech in The Great Dictator that could and should hold today.
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Re: 30/06/2011. General strike.

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One eye on the past and one on the future.

In a nutshell
our grandparents fought for basic rights such as work-breaks ,that we have taken for granted.
now "thatchers children" (as i call them) are eroding them.
unions are like the new Jews !........... A totally spurious comment ?
Think about it ..to a monetarist the unions are to blame for most of industries inefficiency's, for slowing the pace of change
for stifling employers with health and safety requirements and for driving up inflation, (with their unreasonable living wage demands),

Dave Cameron despises unions despite their democratic roots,whilst the press are complicit in the creation of modern scapegoats.
Disrespecting and ignoring unions is anti democratic which is ironic while he (Dave) stands on such a slim majority.
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randompostman wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvjoWOwnn4

A message from 70 years ago by Charlie Chaplin`s final speech in The Great Dictator that could and should hold today.
Watch it again without the sound .He has totally mastered Hitlers and Stallins mannerisms . genius.
of course thats where the irony comes in! What good a charismatic leader like Hitler could have done if his words were not
of hate and had the substance of the Chaplin speech.
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Re: 30/06/2011. General strike.

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Harry_Perkins wrote:
Tman wrote:Come now DV, don't you appreciate what a noble gesture it was for a load of Ox-bridge students to go and stick thier idealistic noses into Spain's internal politics in the 1930s, and how relevant thier "sacrifice" was? :left:
'Course, at the time they believed the future was actually happening in the USSR and that that nice Mr Marx had all the answers for the new world order....

Yep, we can all learn something from that load of knob-ends...."shoot at a bloke with a gun and he'll shoot back", but then those Spanish never did play fair... :left:
Most of them were smart enough to know what was coming for Britain, and the rest of Europe, if a democratically elected government was successful overturned by fascists. And they were right. Unlike the clowns, both east and west, who took an 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' attitude and ended up very nearly seeing all of Europe fall to fascism. These people weren't 'knob-ends', they were fighting for at least a scrap of the freedom we enjoy today.
:hmmmm And most of them where miners ,which I think you would admit is not the usual career path of Oxbridge graduates. Thankfully the British secret service logged their ID's and monitored their activities and communications ever after. So it seems now anyone with a bent to check up on facts can find out just how many Jesus professors bit the bullet at Guernica.
Never let a big fat chip on your shoulder get in the way of reality :chuckle Daily Mail strikes again?
Bye
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Re: 30/06/2011. General strike.

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J30 strlke London.

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Re: 30/06/2011. General strike.

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J30 strike Birmingham

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J30 strike Leeds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK9EWyguzIs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: 30/06/2011. General strike.

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Ah yes. If rhetoric were bullets all those who deny the working class would be dead, if rhetoric formed mandates at elections we would be living in utopia - however reality is what it is.
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Re: 30/06/2011. General strike.

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J30 strike. Wakefield.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWS8-f7K9No" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: 30/06/2011. General strike.

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J30 strike. Glasgow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv-NmaR8ePQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;