Royal Mail is preparing for mass sackings!

[dvbuk55]

Any way you look at it, there is not going to be a general strike as in the past. Will there be a finite period for this strike or will it just die the death of thousands returning to work over a protracted period and who is going to negotiate the million and one causes. There have been recessions in the past, the three day week, electricty cut off for several hours a day, the miners strike calling out for national support............................it's not by chance there hasn't been a general strike since 1926. That was 85 years ago and since then the power of the unions and the membership has fallen dramatically.

When our pension was cut and when we had to work longer the CWU didn't rally the troops and the most probable reason was because they could see that it wasn't financially viable. Change has to come, not quite as quickly as the coalition suggest perhaps, but change it must, even the CWU as small as it is has a pensions defecit.

[Lincox]

The argument about people living longer is true, but it has little to do with increase costs in pensions. If a person retires at 65 his/her part of the pension pot will never be exhausted however long he/she lives. This is because the pension pots are invested in low risk investment funds such as Government Gilts, Corporate Bonds and Cash Deposits. The average annual return on these is sufficient to meet the annual pension the recipient receives. When the recipient dies, his/her fund does not get passed on to the next of kin, apart from there may be a reduced pension paid to a spouse/common law. The remaining fund remains with the provider and reinforces the pension pots of people remaining in the fund. It does not give them a better pension but makes the funds more secure.

[Phantom]

Yes highly amusing, however the issues will not be solved by a general strike but by addressing the issues at hand. Unless of course you have already hit upon the solution, if so, please share it.

Yes and the issues will not be solved by negotiations with RM either cos they're not interested

You really think there'll be a general strike over Royal Mail issues

Of course striking will do f**k all because our CWU is very weak!!! RM will have our pants down, grease us up and aim for penetration....I was just stating what we should do and if we did we would win but as i said before the union is weak and crap at negotiating. Best we all sit back and watch it fall apart, take the money and run....

[Night Tonic]

There are no alternatives. Such opportunities have long since passed and most industries have already been through what the Royal Mail is now facing. But simply saying "we'll strike" with no idea of what you actually want and no chance of a result other than less money and even more of the country supporting the sell off really IS blunt chisel territory.

Duvbuk55 is right on a strike achieving nowt. The blunter chisels in the box will be getting their flasks and scarves already, even though it got them nowhere last time. No shame in that, but nothing to be gained either.

Since you obviously consider yourself a sharp tool...what alternative would you suggest?
Doing nowt?
Get the kettle on...we'll have a long.hard think at this one.

[fishtank]

...but doing nowt isn't without consequences NT.
It sends out the message to both the Government and employer that the "blunt chisels" will accept anything,any attack and simply roll over.
That,in turn must surely also lead to less money and poorer terms and conditions.
What to do....?
Stand up and take a kicking or lie down and take a kicking.

[axeman]

On QUE the 'tonic' turns up just when the worm starts to turn where's your counter part or should i say spare part eh night tonic ?

[scoobydo79]

...but doing nowt isn't without consequences NT.
It sends out the message to both the Government and employer that the "blunt chisels" will accept anything,any attack and simply roll over.
That,in turn must surely also lead to less money and poorer terms and conditions.
What to do....?
Stand up and take a kicking or lie down and take a kicking.

Hmmm as i rememember last time the union had royal mail on the ropes we accepted any thing,took less money ,poorer terms and conditions and now we are taking the kicking

[fishtank]

...but doing nowt isn't without consequences NT.
It sends out the message to both the Government and employer that the "blunt chisels" will accept anything,any attack and simply roll over.
That,in turn must surely also lead to less money and poorer terms and conditions.
What to do....?
Stand up and take a kicking or lie down and take a kicking.

Hmmm as i rememember last time the union had royal mail on the ropes we accepted any thing,took less money ,poorer terms and conditions and now we are taking the kicking

So...what do you suggest scoobs?
It's OK for old NT...he's sitting back on his deckchair,retired and supping an ale.
What about us?...what do we do?...just accept it,move on and brace for the next kicking?

[scoobydo79]

Me? Il tell you what I do Fishtank. Each day I go to work and I dont let it get to me.I think about how hard the job has become and remind myself come late afternoon Im out of it.It earns me the money to do the things in life that I enjoy.I take satisfaction when the Public tell me they think postman are terrific working outside in all weathers day in day out .If I cut off well and good and I prove my point if I book extended its money in my pocket.Win win situation!!But to answer your question Im afraid I dont know what the answer is

[Gazza90000]

I could give em a list...Reading some of the posts on here .... A lot of members trying to buck the system in terms of avoiding working and asking stoooooopid questions...Can I be sacked if I am slow...Should I be sacked cos I have not delivered the mail..... Should I get a Stage 3 because I have only been at work for a week in the last 3 years...Good grief....The more people go the more secure my job becomes...

There is no I in Team , but if you look closely there's an M and an E !!!!

[POSTMAN]

I could give em a list...Reading some of the posts on here .... A lot of members trying to buck the system in terms of avoiding working and asking stoooooopid questions...Can I be sacked if I am slow...Should I be sacked cos I have not delivered the mail..... Should I get a Stage 3 because I have only been at work for a week in the last 3 years...Good grief....The more people go the more secure my job becomes...

There is no I in Team , but if you look closely there's an M and an E !!!!

You don't have to read them,cya.

[Gazza90000]

I could give em a list...Reading some of the posts on here .... A lot of members trying to buck the system in terms of avoiding working and asking stoooooopid questions...Can I be sacked if I am slow...Should I be sacked cos I have not delivered the mail..... Should I get a Stage 3 because I have only been at work for a week in the last 3 years...Good grief....The more people go the more secure my job becomes...

There is no I in Team , but if you look closely there's an M and an E !!!!

You don't have to read them,cya.

Charming

[spoodoo]

all the working class rise up !!!!!!!!!!

[larry42]

all the working class rise up !!!!!!!!!!

Give em all Viagra!!!

[TrueBlueTerrier]

all the working class rise up !!!!!!!!!!

Give em all Viagra!!!

It might stiffen their resolve I'll give you that.