IWW Fellow Worker wrote:This is what you should all do (especially if late starts come in): Make sure your sick record is good. Then, if you need a Saturday off, just take it. Don't bother mentioning it and highlighting it to the screws, just take the day off. Of course it will create a big difficulty for them. They will have to pay you sick pay, they will have to pay someone to cover your duty and they will still owe you a days leave, but if they can't manage a situation they are paid to, that's their fault, not yours. Of course it's not the way I like to do things as I've always prefered the honest approach, but what can you do when the job is run by idiots? If you're on a five day week, that works out at six Saturdays off a year. If you're careful you can have another two or three without even triggering a stage.
Just curious how you arrive a figure of six 'sickies', IWW ?
Surely once you've had four absences (even of just a single day each), a Stage 1 is triggered ? And then you could only have a maximum of two absences in the following 12 months if you want to avoid a Stage 2 ???
Getting a day off during autumn pressure at my office is about as likely as Paul Robinson going 90 minutes without making a howler
IWW Fellow Worker wrote:This is what you should all do (especially if late starts come in): Make sure your sick record is good. Then, if you need a Saturday off, just take it. Don't bother mentioning it and highlighting it to the screws, just take the day off. Of course it will create a big difficulty for them. They will have to pay you sick pay, they will have to pay someone to cover your duty and they will still owe you a days leave, but if they can't manage a situation they are paid to, that's their fault, not yours. Of course it's not the way I like to do things as I've always prefered the honest approach, but what can you do when the job is run by idiots? If you're on a five day week, that works out at six Saturdays off a year. If you're careful you can have another two or three without even triggering a stage.
Just curious how you arrive a figure of six 'sickies', IWW ?
Surely once you've had four absences (even of just a single day each), a Stage 1 is triggered ? And then you could only have a maximum of two absences in the following 12 months if you want to avoid a Stage 2 ???
Getting a day off during autumn pressure at my office is about as likely as Paul Robinson going 90 minutes without making a howler
No, six Saturdays are what you get on your five day weeks every year. You could take two or three sickies on top of those and not get a stage.
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Bloke who has left now used to brag how he kept a diary, and had his 'full entitlement' of 13 days sick per year. Reckons he had time off in say Jan/June/Oct in Year 1, then Feb/July/Nov in Year 2 etc etc. Always took care to leave a five-month gap every so often, so that no group of four absences occured in any 12-month timespan. Which explains why he struggled in to work when he had a tummy bug and the trots. Taking an unplanned sickie would have disrupted his errmmm... movements
Bloke who has left now used to brag how he kept a diary, and had his 'full entitlement' of 13 days sick per year. Reckons he had time off in say Jan/June/Oct in Year 1, then Feb/July/Nov in Year 2 etc etc. Always took care to leave a five-month gap every so often, so that no group of four absences occured in any 12-month timespan. Which explains why he struggled in to work when he had a tummy bug and the trots. Taking an unplanned sickie would have disrupted his errmmm... movements
I think taking the full entitlement would be a bit dodgy. The odd Saturday for a big game or to take the kids out isn't bad though. You might only have to do it once or twice a year. I wouldn't blame anyone for doing it in a job which has made Saturday finishes later and later.
The Industrial Workers of the World. The union whose members never scab!
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
due to shite management you rarely get the chance to book the odd day off at our place ! we had one crafty bastard manager who used to make a note of any requests, he would then knock you back and he had a record of you asking for that day!!! if you went sick he would try and make a case against you!! our solution is to just phone in sick! we don't even ask now ,so instead of a day.......... have a week!!!!!
dongash wrote:due to shite management you rarely get the chance to book the odd day off at our place ! we had one crafty bastard manager who used to make a note of any requests, he would then knock you back and he had a record of you asking for that day!!! if you went sick he would try and make a case against you!! our solution is to just phone in sick! we don't even ask now ,so instead of a day.......... have a week!!!!!
I've heard of people doing that too. How much money do Royal Mail lose just because their 'managers' are so inept that they can't plan cover for the most popular times of the year? I'll bet there wouldn't be much change out of £700. You might think just letting someone have the day off would be easier and less expensive, but the business brains at Royal Mail think otherwise.
The Industrial Workers of the World. The union whose members never scab!
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
