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Why post is now late - Andover

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custard wrote:
blue1873 wrote:Thank f**k i work indoors now,just thinking about that
lot above is making my legs ache :crazy: ........nurse..nurse
more beer please

we had 6 MC guys sent down to cover walks the other day
not one managed to complete a duty in 4 hours :roll:
Custard i have always said every one in RM should have at
least 3 years on the wallet before being allowed to work
inside (unless medically unfit) so they then apprecciate
what this job is about......getting the mail delivered
odds on the 6 guys you got last week have only ever
worked indoors and now realise that their jobs could be
a helluva lot harder :hmmmm :hmmmm
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Post by StuddStreet »

There's so much traffic on many roads these days that as well as the danger, there's also the delay, waiting to cross.

Royal Mail's model would need to know road traffic density in a road, at the time of the delivery, to work it out properly. I have had no involvement with the current system, so i don't know if it does allow for that or not, using quite sophisticated statistical modelling. If it doesn't, it will surely givethe wrong answers...
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blue: I agree with you. The delivery job these days is in my opinion a lot more physical than it ever was in the past, because of the increased mail volumes and weights. The indoor duties can't change as much. The old-fashioned image of the postman in some rural setting, with his bike and a handful of letters, may still apply in some places but not in the towns. The walks have a much longer duration as well. My chum is a delivery postie - I wouldn't want to do it, no way.
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Post by IloveMYredTROLLEY! »

I could understand posties zig-zagging on a rural route, but for most of us, surely it is far more efficient (and safer, in theory) to deliver along one side of the road before doing the other side?

A few weeks back I did a bit of o/t on a new round, which had a bonkers sequence, according to the frame layout... Delivering in blocks of ~20 before doubling back after crossing over the road, all the pointless "dead walking" drove me scatty, when the whole complex could have been done in one loop! Almost as good as frame layouts for blocks of flats that would have you walking randomly between different levels instead of the simple numerical order in which they are situated. I sware some layouts must be in operation from the drug-indused days from the 60s...
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IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:I could understand posties zig-zagging on a rural route, but for most of us, surely it is far more efficient (and safer, in theory) to deliver along one side of the road before doing the other side?

A few weeks back I did a bit of o/t on a new round, which had a bonkers sequence, according to the frame layout... Delivering in blocks of ~20 before doubling back after crossing over the road, all the pointless "dead walking" drove me scatty, when the whole complex could have been done in one loop! Almost as good as frame layouts for blocks of flats that would have you walking randomly between different levels instead of the simple numerical order in which they are situated. I sware some layouts must be in operation from the drug-indused days from the 60s...

If you ever see a road on a frame that has the numbers going from say low odd to high odd then low evens to high evens then this needs to be backed - backed means you have to zig zag.

I do about 1/4 of my delivery by backing (zig zagging) a road. The reason is to cut out dead walking like ILMRT had to do above, and because its quicker and less tiring.

I think where backing helps is if you deliver on steep hills, or when if you did one side then the other, you have to spend more than 3 or 4 minutes walking back to the start. Of course it wont work on very busy roads and therefore any dead walking should be factored in to the delivery span plan.
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does this work with the new delivery methods though teebs?

we have been told that the delivery must be completed as per frame, i assume its so machines can bundle up for us in the near future.
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BT2010 wrote:does this work with the new delivery methods though teebs?

we have been told that the delivery must be completed as per frame, i assume its so machines can bundle up for us in the near future.
As with my backing system it all depends on how you do the delivery.

If you are doing small loops then no it would be pointless to back bundles. But if you are doing large loops then they're may be a case. For instance if you and the driver agree that they will move the vehicle from one point to the end of the street you are zig zagging down then that would make sense.

Also even if they do ever have a machine that pulls the walk out for you :left: :left: then backing is relative easily - all you do is split the bundles up in the back of the van and then flip the odds and add them to the back of the evens - viola you have a backed bundle, just make sure that the odds and evens are going in the same direction either up or down otherwise - the problem that may occur is when the odds go down on the frame and the evens go up (backing is then quite difficult).
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