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Why post is now late - Andover
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TrueBlueTerrier
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HAS anybody else been receiving post later than usual?
Well if you have, I found out why yesterday. Apparently the Royal Mail has given new instruction to all posties to deliver one side of a road at a time and not to cross the road.
This is of course a sensible rule on busy roads such as the Winchester or Weyhill Roads.
But the instruction is for all roads. So even if you live on a very quiet road or a cul de sac, your friendly postie has to go all the way down one side and all the way back up the other.
So it seems that men and women who are trusted every day with our most precious cargoes can’t be trusted to decide for themselves if it is safe to cross the road. Barking!
David Drew, Andover.
HAS anybody else been receiving post later than usual?
Well if you have, I found out why yesterday. Apparently the Royal Mail has given new instruction to all posties to deliver one side of a road at a time and not to cross the road.
This is of course a sensible rule on busy roads such as the Winchester or Weyhill Roads.
But the instruction is for all roads. So even if you live on a very quiet road or a cul de sac, your friendly postie has to go all the way down one side and all the way back up the other.
So it seems that men and women who are trusted every day with our most precious cargoes can’t be trusted to decide for themselves if it is safe to cross the road. Barking!
David Drew, Andover.
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Re: Why post is now late - Andover
nobodys said that in our office utter rubbishTrueBlueTerrier wrote:http://www.andoveradvertiser.co.uk/your ... _now_late/
HAS anybody else been receiving post later than usual?
Well if you have, I found out why yesterday. Apparently the Royal Mail has given new instruction to all posties to deliver one side of a road at a time and not to cross the road.
This is of course a sensible rule on busy roads such as the Winchester or Weyhill Roads.
But the instruction is for all roads. So even if you live on a very quiet road or a cul de sac, your friendly postie has to go all the way down one side and all the way back up the other.
So it seems that men and women who are trusted every day with our most precious cargoes can’t be trusted to decide for themselves if it is safe to cross the road. Barking!
David Drew, Andover.
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Re: Why post is now late - Andover
I have heard it at some offices.
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Re: Why post is now late - Andover
not practicalpyphon wrote:I have heard it at some offices.
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Re: Why post is now late - Andover
Difficult to know where to begin with this one.
Firstly, this may be a rerouted delivery, not an “instruction not to cross roads”. It will, possibly, save time to only cross the road once rather than zig-zagging back and forth.
Secondly, as to whether you receive your post later will depend on where you are situated on the delivery route. Those at the end of the first side of the road will benefit and those at the finish of the return side will lose out. For everyone that gets their post later, there will be someone that gets their post earlier.
Thirdly, if the delivery office in question has yet to undergo a full scale revision, then you might well look back fondly on this period as “you ain’t seen nothing yet!”
Firstly, this may be a rerouted delivery, not an “instruction not to cross roads”. It will, possibly, save time to only cross the road once rather than zig-zagging back and forth.
Secondly, as to whether you receive your post later will depend on where you are situated on the delivery route. Those at the end of the first side of the road will benefit and those at the finish of the return side will lose out. For everyone that gets their post later, there will be someone that gets their post earlier.
Thirdly, if the delivery office in question has yet to undergo a full scale revision, then you might well look back fondly on this period as “you ain’t seen nothing yet!”
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Re: Why post is now late - Andover
Well we have started the revision and one person recieved thier post at 10 o'clock..........in the evening!
That was the worst I have heard, many have been recieving it by 6 o'clock.
Yesterday my DIM had 30 complaints on his desk from just one area.... still the computer says it will work and that can't ever be wrong can it?
That was the worst I have heard, many have been recieving it by 6 o'clock.
Yesterday my DIM had 30 complaints on his desk from just one area.... still the computer says it will work and that can't ever be wrong can it?
Union what Union? Do we have a union?
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Re: Why post is now late - Andover
err........yeah pass this one onto customer services,they,ll deal with it.
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Re: Why post is now late - Andover
Posties not to cross roads seems to me some "manager/spokesperson "
is talking out of their arse (nothing new in that i hear you say),in our
MC whilst being shown how walk sequenced mail is to be trayed off from
an ILSM we were shown a series of pictures displaying how the postie
will deliver nos 2---14 then cross the road to nos 1---15 and so on .
apparently the sequencing is based on how the postie has made up
his walk log,this was a member of the National Training Team
showing us these clips /pictures and not some jumped-up little
non-descript who could'nt/ would'nt do a walk to save his life

is talking out of their arse (nothing new in that i hear you say),in our
MC whilst being shown how walk sequenced mail is to be trayed off from
an ILSM we were shown a series of pictures displaying how the postie
will deliver nos 2---14 then cross the road to nos 1---15 and so on .
apparently the sequencing is based on how the postie has made up
his walk log,this was a member of the National Training Team
showing us these clips /pictures and not some jumped-up little
non-descript who could'nt/ would'nt do a walk to save his life
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Re: Why post is now late - Andover
As straight4ward has said
The net result of looping a street, versus up one side and down and down the other
is the same.
your last customer could equally become your first!
more worrying for the customers( who seem to not be grasping the big picture)
is longer rounds and later start times.
The net result of looping a street, versus up one side and down and down the other
is the same.
your last customer could equally become your first!
more worrying for the customers( who seem to not be grasping the big picture)
is longer rounds and later start times.
I'm a postman-and i know where you live.....
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Re: Why post is now late - Andover
Think there are a few wires getting crossed here. straight4ward already has it bang on.
Like bikes going for health and safety being nonsense, so is this. It is just a result of a looped delivery.
Like bikes going for health and safety being nonsense, so is this. It is just a result of a looped delivery.
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Re: Why post is now late - Andover
If a delivery is done along a road which leads directly into another road as part of a walk, so that the postman doesn't have to walk back along that first road, crossing the road in a zig zag would initially appear the only way to do it. But assuming minimal road traffic, whether it really would be the best way would seem to me to depend on the call density.
For example, if only one house in three had a letter, the delivery could proceed quite easily in one direction. But if every house had a letter, there would have to be crosses of the road after every house, or alternatively some back-tracking on the opposite side. If one walked say 100 yards west down one side of the road, and then had to walk back the full length to start delivering from the other side (with the subsequent road being at the western end) there would be 100 yards of 'wasted' walking. At say 4 miles per hour on foot that would be roughly one minute 'wasted'. The total distance walked along the pavements (i.e. exc. the garden paths etc) would be 300 yards, i.e. 200 yards delivering, and 100 yards backtracking.
If there were (say) 15 houses per side in a 100-yard urban street, zig-zagging would theoretically involve 30 crossings of the road (one after every house). If the road were say 8 yards wide (between the pavements) that would be 240 yards of zig zags, which is more than double the 'backtrack' distance estimated above. in practice, it would probably be less than that, because not every house would get a letter...my guess is that even with backtracking, sticking to one side and then the other, with some backtracking, might be faster. Whether Royal Mail's model works this out correctly I have no idea!
For example, if only one house in three had a letter, the delivery could proceed quite easily in one direction. But if every house had a letter, there would have to be crosses of the road after every house, or alternatively some back-tracking on the opposite side. If one walked say 100 yards west down one side of the road, and then had to walk back the full length to start delivering from the other side (with the subsequent road being at the western end) there would be 100 yards of 'wasted' walking. At say 4 miles per hour on foot that would be roughly one minute 'wasted'. The total distance walked along the pavements (i.e. exc. the garden paths etc) would be 300 yards, i.e. 200 yards delivering, and 100 yards backtracking.
If there were (say) 15 houses per side in a 100-yard urban street, zig-zagging would theoretically involve 30 crossings of the road (one after every house). If the road were say 8 yards wide (between the pavements) that would be 240 yards of zig zags, which is more than double the 'backtrack' distance estimated above. in practice, it would probably be less than that, because not every house would get a letter...my guess is that even with backtracking, sticking to one side and then the other, with some backtracking, might be faster. Whether Royal Mail's model works this out correctly I have no idea!
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Re: Why post is now late - Andover
Thank f**k i work indoors now,just thinking about that
lot above is making my legs ache
........nurse..nurse
more beer please
lot above is making my legs ache
more beer please
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Re: Why post is now late - Andover
blue1873 wrote:Thank f**k i work indoors now,just thinking about that
lot above is making my legs ache........nurse..nurse
more beer please
we had 6 MC guys sent down to cover walks the other day
not one managed to complete a duty in 4 hours
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Re: Why post is now late - Andover
StuddStreet wrote:If a delivery is done along a road which leads directly into another road as part of a walk, so that the postman doesn't have to walk back along that first road, crossing the road in a zig zag would initially appear the only way to do it. But assuming minimal road traffic, whether it really would be the best way would seem to me to depend on the call density.
For example, if only one house in three had a letter, the delivery could proceed quite easily in one direction. But if every house had a letter, there would have to be crosses of the road after every house, or alternatively some back-tracking on the opposite side. If one walked say 100 yards west down one side of the road, and then had to walk back the full length to start delivering from the other side (with the subsequent road being at the western end) there would be 100 yards of 'wasted' walking. At say 4 miles per hour on foot that would be roughly one minute 'wasted'. The total distance walked along the pavements (i.e. exc. the garden paths etc) would be 300 yards, i.e. 200 yards delivering, and 100 yards backtracking.
If there were (say) 15 houses per side in a 100-yard urban street, zig-zagging would theoretically involve 30 crossings of the road (one after every house). If the road were say 8 yards wide (between the pavements) that would be 240 yards of zig zags, which is more than double the 'backtrack' distance estimated above. in practice, it would probably be less than that, because not every house would get a letter...my guess is that even with backtracking, sticking to one side and then the other, with some backtracking, might be faster. Whether Royal Mail's model works this out correctly I have no idea!
I hate zig zagging up roads
I do one duty where it involves a lot of it
makes a short road seem awfy long
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Re: Why post is now late - Andover
If it is possible to plot a delivery without crossing the road then it should be done.
I would rather be dead walking than dead trying to cross a road.
I would rather be dead walking than dead trying to cross a road.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share