Census dates

[George door to dawes]

I work wednesday to saturday on a part time contract. Whats the betting i will turn up on wednesday the 9th to find 0% have been done or prepped for my walk?!

[BettySwollocks]

We got told today that 8 census letters weighs 1kg,thats approx 80kg on my walk (630 drops).
Also got told that allegedly 40% of offfice D2Ds for 7th march will now be moved to 13th.

That can't be right surely !!!!
isn't the weight limit on bags (2nd onwards) - 11kg ?
so that would mean 88 census letters per bag not including normal mail and packets ?
call me psychic, but i can predict sudden bouts of sickness nationwide on or about the 7th march

[Big Daz]

Normal mail, so no extra payment.

Unlike...say...polling cards which are different because.....?

Not different, but polling cards are Election material and CWU/RML policy since Ive been with RML (1991) is for delivery OPG's to recive extra payment for election material.

[fishtank]

Normal mail, so no extra payment.

Unlike...say...polling cards which are different because.....?

Not different, but polling cards are Election material and CWU/RML policy since Ive been with RML (1991) is for delivery OPG's to recive extra payment for election material.

The point was/is...when you have an exceptional circumstance like the census an ad-hoc payment would have gone a long way towards engaging the staff and easing the pain.
It would probably have at least partially paid for itself in lower pressure overtime payments.
As usual in these circumstances the dinosaur management running this company into the ground cannot see further than the end of the balance sheet but would quite happily waste money on vans that are too small and PDA's that are too large.

[Indy]

I work wednesday to saturday on a part time contract. Whats the betting i will turn up on wednesday the 9th to find 0% have been done or prepped for my walk?!

I can only go by whats happening here but we are being told that 50% WILL go out on Monday and 50% WILL go out on Tuesdays and Wednesday will be to mop up the odds and sods any one who cares to fook around will regret it! From what I can see they aint peeing around either

[taurus88]

We got told today that 8 census letters weighs 1kg,thats approx 80kg on my walk (630 drops).
Also got told that allegedly 40% of offfice D2Ds for 7th march will now be moved to 13th.

That can't be right surely !!!!
isn't the weight limit on bags (2nd onwards) - 11kg ?
so that would mean 88 census letters per bag not including normal mail and packets ?
call me psychic, but i can predict sudden bouts of sickness nationwide on or about the 7th march

Well, it's actually around 7.7 census letters that will weigh 1kg.

In terms of the individual who claims their office will be doing 50/50 on Monday and Tuesday, that would, on an average round in our office, equate to a further 32kg per day, and probably an extra three pouches. On my round it would be another 38kg per day.

[clashcityrocker]

Not different, but polling cards are Election material and CWU/RML policy since Ive been with RML (1991) is for delivery OPG's to recive extra payment for election material.

So what's going to happen if some bright spark cottons on to the fact it would be cheaper to send election material out as a D2D?
Would there be a payment? Would there still be an opt out clause?

[fishtank]

I think we need a new election agreement anyway taking into account the new delivery methods.
How can you opt out if your partner doesn't?
You don't prep their delivery but you deliver half of it.

[Indy]

Normal mail, so no extra payment.

Unlike...say...polling cards which are different because.....?

Not different, but polling cards are Election material and CWU/RML policy since Ive been with RML (1991) is for delivery OPG's to recive extra payment for election material.

The point was/is...when you have an exceptional circumstance like the census an ad-hoc payment would have gone a long way towards engaging the staff and easing the pain.
It would probably have at least partially paid for itself in lower pressure overtime payments.
As usual in these circumstances the dinosaur management running this company into the ground cannot see further than the end of the balance sheet but would quite happily waste money on vans that are too small and PDA's that are too large.

Sorry but I have to disagree with you there.... MY understanding is.... the Census contract was 'won' in a competitive tender against other companies who also wanted this work. RM LOST the Scottish part of this contract. As such cost wise RM had to make a bid that covered the fact that the other companies weren't/wouldn't pay any sort of extra payment to the delivery people above their normal wage.

It'll be interesting to see what happens at the next election with regards the extra payments we get for delivering Candidate Election material. I'm sure that they'll be other companies that would offer to do this for far less than what RM will charge. I reguarly see d2d delivery people around my walk delivering for a pittance. The what? 6p an item over and above a delivery cost is going to be a huge incentive for them to go after the contract.... they may even probably offer to undercut RM. The only bonus RM has in its favor is that it IS RM a trusted British Institution. Other than that

Welcome to competition... welcome to the FUTURE!

[George door to dawes]

I work wednesday to saturday on a part time contract. Whats the betting i will turn up on wednesday the 9th to find 0% have been done or prepped for my walk?!

I can only go by whats happening here but we are being told that 50% WILL go out on Monday and 50% WILL go out on Tuesdays and Wednesday will be to mop up the odds and sods any one who cares to fook around will regret it! From what I can see they aint peeing around either

Sounds great but the problem is my walk is lapsed on monday tuesday so bet FT staff will probably ignore it all and managers wont even notice

[fishtank]

Sorry but I have to disagree with you there.... MY understanding is.... the Census contract was 'won' in a competitive tender against other companies who also wanted this work. RM LOST the Scottish part of this contract. As such cost wise RM had to make a bid that covered the fact that the other companies weren't/wouldn't pay any sort of extra payment to the delivery people above their normal wage.

RM didn't LOSE the Scottish part of the contract...the Scottish Government decided to go in a completely different direction with the delivery of the census using interviewers who will actually knock on peoples door,gather data and advise people on how to fill in the form.
RM obviously cannot offer that service at any cost.
Who else bid for the census Indy?

[Indy]

Sorry but I have to disagree with you there.... MY understanding is.... the Census contract was 'won' in a competitive tender against other companies who also wanted this work. RM LOST the Scottish part of this contract. As such cost wise RM had to make a bid that covered the fact that the other companies weren't/wouldn't pay any sort of extra payment to the delivery people above their normal wage.

RM didn't LOSE the Scottish part of the contract...the Scottish Government decided to go in a completely different direction with the delivery of the census using interviewers who will actually knock on peoples door,gather data and advise people on how to fill in the form.
RM obviously cannot offer that service at any cost.
Who else bid for the census Indy?

Now thats where the " MY Understanding" bit comes in

[fishtank]

On a related matter do you know the one about the international arms dealer,the 2011 UK census and the US Patriot Act....

[Indy]

On a related matter do you know the one about the international arms dealer,the 2011 UK census and the US Patriot Act....

Lockheed Martin??

[fishtank]

On a related matter do you know the one about the international arms dealer,the 2011 UK census and the US Patriot Act....

Lockheed Martin??

Indeed.