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"Health Care""Professionals" ATOS responsible for two deaths

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norbert
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"Health Care""Professionals" ATOS responsible for two deaths

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http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home ... -1.1085915" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Re ATOS Origin

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http://dwpexamination.wordpress.com/rum ... d-hearsay/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Comment 6 - Postman medically retired by ATOS on Royal Mail's behalf then DWP claim disallowed by ATOS as " swinging the lead " :crazy:
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Two deaths.
And counting,
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Post by wolfie citizen smith »

what a very interesting read :cuppa , this has opened my eyes quite a bit :shock: and made me even more paranoid :nana about Royal Mail, the DWP and them slippery no good lying money grabbing bastards at Atos Healthcare....... :crazy:
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Sadly, I can't say I'm surprised by these articles.
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I believe the union has let the members down over Atos...
From the 2008 conference...
96 Carried
Conference agrees that the current Employee Health Services "ATOS" do not act in the best interests of the CWU Membership, and are not independent of the employer.
The reports from ATOS to the employer are not "impartial" and can often conflict with the diagnosis of the members GP's/ Surgeon.
Conference instructs the executive to request with the employer for an immediate review of this process.

The Postal Executive is instructed accordingly.
Solent Amal
South Central No.1
From the 2009 conference..... :roll:
Next up was a highly contested Motion (63), the NEC asked the branches to withdraw the Motion but they refused. This Motion was basically slating the current EHS service ATOS healthcare, The National Officer said that they already had policy and said they are currently in discussions with ATOS/EHS during their current contract. He said that they were not the problem it was Royal Mail, they are driving the initiatives to lower sick absence and that ATOS do not stop our peoples pay, Royal Mail do. Our current policy is that any contracts Royal Mail sign with the EHS provider do not contravene our procedures, telephone call interviews are only by agreement with our members they can insist on a face to face interview. Many delegates got up with horror stories regarding dealings with ATOS/EHS. There is a crisis of confidence in ATOS Origin, they receive a monetary bonus for reducing Royal mail sick absence. The debate could have lasted long into the night as everyone had a story to tell, but the vote was called and the Motion was carried. Motion 67 also dealt with this issue asking for the PEC to seek agreement for CWU representation at ATOS appointments should the member wish it with paid release for the representative.
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:sad: I'm not in the least bit surprise, it was only a matter of time before this happened, and will happen again. I hope there is a way these companies can be sued.
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were dooooomed i tell you,doooomed. :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
who the hell invests £2 billion into a servic and makes it worse?????????????
you really couldn't make it up!!!!!!!!!!!
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http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.d599 ... _el_250398" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Letter from Dr Omar Najim on behalf of the Civil and Public Services Committee (CPSC) in response to the "Well Enough to Work?" article published week 8th Feb.

* Dr Omar Najim, Chairman of the Civil and Public Services Committee (CPSC)

BMA

Margaret McCartney's investigation of Atos Healthcare procedures is timely. There are some inaccuracies, however. No-one with evidence of terminal cancer should ever be disallowed benefit, but will qualify at the highest monetary rate under what are known as Special Rules. There is also misunderstanding over the approach of "Disability Analysis", which is a functional rather than a diagnostic assessment. This is necessary as many serious medical conditions can now be stabilised by modern treatment and some may enter a phase of remission. Thirdly, further medical evidence is frequently sought from the GP but is difficult to obtain in the required time scale. Nor does it always provide up to date information about present functional ability, especially when the patient has not been recently seen.

These caveats aside, Dr McCartney's article raises valid and important points. She asks if we can be confident that Atos doctors are doing their professional duty with respect to reports. We wish to report two serious matters which have emerged in feedback from our members engaged in this work and which appear to amplify these concerns.

Firstly, doctors are now in a minority in the Atos workforce. Nurse practitioners exceed them in a cost-cutting trend that is likely to continue. Furthermore, many of the doctors are EU recruits and less likely to remain in the job over the long-term. The attrition rate of medical personnel is high, but even higher among the nurses now making highly specialised assessments on benefit entitlement in lieu of doctors.

Secondly, all Atos medical personnel are subject to detailed monthly monitoring regarding the time taken over reports, the throughput, and the "quality" of their work (as assessed by software which our members regard as currently flawed). Included in these monthly statistics is the rate of likely disallowance of benefit and the number of times a Support Group (which is awarded the highest rate of benefit) is indicated. Although the final decision is made by the DWP decision maker the Harrington report has found that the Atos practitioner's report is rarely questioned at this stage Dr McCartney is correct in noting that the rate of disallowance has almost doubled since Employment Support Allowance (ESA) took over from Incapacity Benefit, and also that 40% of new ESA reports are currently being overturned by the Appeals Service. We have been told that pressure is being brought to bear on health care practitioners who do not achieve a stiff monthly disallowance rate target, although Atos denies that such targets exists.

Every individual practitioner is responsible for upholding an appropriate code of ethics, as both the GMC and NMC would confirm. In the case of Atos practitioners, we fear that this obligation is being made all the harder by the difficult circumstances in which they work."
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