interim agreement

[fishtank]

Most people i ask tell me they did not vote for this agreement ,our rep wanted us all to vote yes . Is this the same all over the country most staff members voting no? Can the vote be rigged?

Fixed it for you...now do you understand?

[spoodoo]

Yeah i know when people see £s on offer they go daft ! surely our members arent that short sighted?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Yeah i know when people see £s on offer they go daft ! surely our members arent that short sighted?

Well lets look at the evidence.

2007 Strikes all over the country - interim agreement comes in where RM get the majority of what they wanted - we get a Bung.

2009 Strikes all over the country - interim agreement comes in where RM get the majority of what they wanted - we get a Bung(which we were going to get anyway)

SDD agreement - I was not in then but something tells me that ^^^^^^^^^ is a familar scenario.

Way Forward - sorry getting repetitve now won't bore you any longer.




It works that why Royal Mail constantly use it as a fallback position.

[fishtank]

Yeah i know when people see £s on offer they go daft ! surely our members arent that short sighted?

If you add the maybe 20% short-sighted to the 20% who always do what HQ say and throw in the 20% who were just terrified that they would have to go back to the gate...you have a clear 60/40 majority.
It doesn't need a rigged ballot or any conspiracy theory and HQ know it.

[dvbuk55]

Yeah i know when people see £s on offer they go daft ! surely our members arent that short sighted?

If you add the maybe 20% short-sighted to the 20% who always do what HQ say and throw in the 20% who were just terrified that they would have to go back to the gate...you have a clear 60/40 majority.
It doesn't need a rigged ballot or any conspiracy theory and HQ know it.

So the media circus from last year was just a round the country jolly for the unions senior bods, totally unnecessary and at the members expense.....come to think of it why bother sending out the ballot papers, it would have been just as effective to say " to save cash, statistically you would have voted......and so it's carried"

[Big Daz]

SDD £26 a week increase on Basic pay nowt taken away from pay as far as I know. 2nd delivery dropped and 3.5 hour span introduced 5 day week introduced.

[fishtank]

SDD £26 a week increase on Basic pay nowt taken away from pay as far as I know.

3. Closure of Previous Schemes

a) The Interim Consolidation Scheme ceased at the end of March 2003.

b) All existing PBS supplements, ICS Gainshare, High Performance and Supplementary Quality Payments have been frozen at current levels (defined as the average earned across January to March 2003). These have been used to create a new non-pensionable supplement.

c) The new supplement will be paid including during Christmas (in addition to the normal Christmas ex IWM payment).

d) Where offices have already consolidated ICS/PBS bonus into basic or have new or existing ICS/PBS supplements these will fund up to £5.00 of the £26.28. Where offices have less than the above-mentioned £5, the business will contribute the difference.

e) Offices that have not fully earned their Way Forward Lump Sums will be given one final opportunity to earn this by introducing the single daily delivery revision by the end of March 2004 and achieving the consolidated £26.28 within 4 weeks.

[dvbuk55]

SDD £26 a week increase on Basic pay nowt taken away from pay as far as I know.

3. Closure of Previous Schemes

a) The Interim Consolidation Scheme ceased at the end of March 2003.

b) All existing PBS supplements, ICS Gainshare, High Performance and Supplementary Quality Payments have been frozen at current levels (defined as the average earned across January to March 2003). These have been used to create a new non-pensionable supplement.

c) The new supplement will be paid including during Christmas (in addition to the normal Christmas ex IWM payment).

d) Where offices have already consolidated ICS/PBS bonus into basic or have new or existing ICS/PBS supplements these will fund up to £5.00 of the £26.28. Where offices have less than the above-mentioned £5, the business will contribute the difference.

e) Offices that have not fully earned their Way Forward Lump Sums will be given one final opportunity to earn this by introducing the single daily delivery revision by the end of March 2004 and achieving the consolidated £26.28 within 4 weeks.

So how much did we put into the 26 quid to get it?

[POSTMAN]

If i remember right i saw headlines that bonuses would not be touched and lo and behold i lost part of mine in one deal.
Might be part of one of them things Fish has just posted.

[Big Daz]

Ha, my D.O never got anything under the poxy bonus schemes. For us it was 5 day week 3.5 hour span remove the 2nd del which didnt actually happen as the DOM had us doing sorting or packet delivery.

Still the the mbrs voted no twice to SDD revision and in the end well you know the story .......

[DGP1]

Most people i ask tell me they did not vote for this agreement ,our rep wanted us all to vote yes . Is this the same all over the country most staff members voting no? Can the vote be rigged?

Fixed it for you...now do you understand?

You're a naughty fish

[Martin Walsh]

If i remember right i saw headlines that bonuses would not be touched and lo and behold i lost part of mine in one deal.
Might be part of one of them things Fish has just posted.

Offices who had either ICS or PBS paid £5 of their £21.60. Remember not many offices recieved either PBS or ICS. Remember you had to have over £20 per month of PBS or ICS to contribute.