should i work for royalmail?

[taurus88]

Yes there are some good offices but if the op wants to join I would ask the posties from the office he's been given. I also have had a few jobs(5) in 31 years of working and I can say what rm has become, my old office is the example, I would run a mile. It became the worst job I ever had in the end although back in the 90s was the best.

Should I work for RM is the subject and forum members answering with a generalized NO is just a little narrow minded .

It would be equally narrow-minded not to try and present the likely circumstances in which the O.P. will be thrown into work at Royal Mail. Let's face it, there's a fundamental difference between being a new-start, on a 3- or 6-month contract, and being a ten-year man, even if you've seen the job change. A new-start in Royal Mail is the lowest of the low and is treated, by some managers, as a toy to be thrown around, then disposed of. A new-start will have no rights, will be bullied and coerced due to their ever deteriorating contract situation, and will be chucked from round-to-round like it's going out of fashion. Any noise of dissent and it could lead to a very precarious situation indeed. Personally, because I can stick it or leave it, it doesn't bother me being on a three-month contract. I can stand up for myself because I think that's more important than having a sh*tty part-time temporary job. But for others, it's never going to be like that. If you want the job, RM will make you work above and beyond the call of duty to keep it. It's not very nice at all.

[sidewinder]

Agreed Taurus. Very much agreed.

[RedBagMan]

A new-start in Royal Mail is the lowest of the low and is treated, by some managers, as a toy to be thrown around, then disposed of. A new-start will have no rights, will be bullied and coerced due to their ever deteriorating contract situation, and will be chucked from round-to-round like it's going out of fashion. Any noise of dissent and it could lead to a very precarious situation indeed.

Back to generalizations again. I started last June - had about a week "shadowing" with a work place coach (and was taught well) - and got put onto a walk where I've been ever since. My 6 month contract finished just after Christmas - but was renewed for another 6 months - obviously no dissent or major c*ck-up. I'm always offered o/t - I always look at my frame/packet bag(s) first before saying "yea or nay" (unless I've offered beforehand - and then I keep any promises made) ... I work my day off now and again - when it suits me ... I don't worry about any perceived "deteriorating contract situation" - I just get on with it. I reckon you're more likely to be treated as "the lowest of the low" by some of the old lags rather than the linos/managers - but that's just the same in ANY job .. give it time ...

... and I'll continue to push it - respect is a two-way thing - and it's done me no harm ... yet ...you can argue your corner without p*ssing people off (I believe it's called "dissent")

But then again my DO is in Utopia ... apparently ...

[BELIAL]

It's called 'being assertive'.As a new start on the same walk for 6 months ,I think one of your bubbles is about to burst. Good luck

[skull]

If he wanted reasons as to why then he should put that in the question too.

Are you a man or a woman? Yes or no?

Are you going to go into human biology to give me a more in depth answer that i never asked for?

If you asked someone if they are a man and they said no , it would probably dawn on the person asking that it was a woman .
Putting lady boys aside that is .

To presume every new starter is weak willed and won't be able to fight their corner is a bit presumptous . If they are a bit nieve all they need is a good postie or rep to take them under their wing and try and point them in the right direction. If someone is after a bit of advise and you can just get away with a straight yes or no , don't you think that's a bit ignorant or lazy , a straight yes and no will do .

[taurus88]

A new-start in Royal Mail is the lowest of the low and is treated, by some managers, as a toy to be thrown around, then disposed of. A new-start will have no rights, will be bullied and coerced due to their ever deteriorating contract situation, and will be chucked from round-to-round like it's going out of fashion. Any noise of dissent and it could lead to a very precarious situation indeed.

Back to generalizations again. I started last June - had about a week "shadowing" with a work place coach (and was taught well) - and got put onto a walk where I've been ever since. My 6 month contract finished just after Christmas - but was renewed for another 6 months - obviously no dissent or major c*ck-up. I'm always offered o/t - I always look at my frame/packet bag(s) first before saying "yea or nay" (unless I've offered beforehand - and then I keep any promises made) ... I work my day off now and again - when it suits me ... I don't worry about any perceived "deteriorating contract situation" - I just get on with it. I reckon you're more likely to be treated as "the lowest of the low" by some of the old lags rather than the linos/managers - but that's just the same in ANY job .. give it time ...

... and I'll continue to push it - respect is a two-way thing - and it's done me no harm ... yet ...you can argue your corner without p*ssing people off (I believe it's called "dissent")

But then again my DO is in Utopia ... apparently ...

And yours is a reverse-generalisation based seemingly on an even smaller sample size than my own (which is based on five offices - the five that I have friends in who I met at our initiation day). RM operates similarly everywhere. Of course it's dependent on where you work and how lucky you are and what side of the bed your boss gets out of on a morning. Nobody is disputing that. We are offering our own experiences to the individual, but to pretend that any of us are not unreliable narrators would be stupid. My advice to the O.P. would be to give it a shot but not expect too much. It could be heaven, it could be hell. Personally, my experience is right in the middle. But it depends as much on who you are as it does on where you are and who you work with as to whether you can stick it (even enjoy it).

[RedBagMan]

Fair point(s)

Just trying to "accentuate the positive" ... not something seen on here too much

Maybe - just maybe - I have been lucky so far ... maybe in time I will become one of the "grumpy old posties" ... but until then ...

[Theghost]

The question never asked for explanations,So Yes or No is appropriate.

[gremah]

You know whats funny most of you claim to hate your job but you spend your spare time posting on a forum about it !!

[Indy]

You know whats funny most of you claim to hate your job but you spend your spare time posting on a forum about it !!

Its a form of therapy... seriously!

[POSTMAN]

You know whats funny most of you claim to hate your job but you spend your spare time posting on a forum about it !!

LOL you aint even in the door yet!
Don't forget where we are when you eventually get in.

[BELIAL]

Fair point(s)

Just trying to "accentuate the positive" ... not something seen on here too much

Maybe - just maybe - I have been lucky so far ... maybe in time I will become one of the "grumpy old posties" ... but until then ...

Fair point also . The trains were very punctual in the third Reich and inflation did fall by 16,000,000 %,every cloud