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hi all just need some answers i have my own walk for about 3yrs now, but i am last one in our office can they make me go to another office to cover a walk or should they send reserve staff. who are above me with higher seniority.
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It should be 'spare' staff only,reserves who are spare.
Unless you are fully trained in a specialist job:eg PHG work ect
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heywoodwhites wrote:hi all just need some answers i have my own walk for about 3yrs now, but i am last one in our office can they make me go to another office to cover a walk or should they send reserve staff. who are above me with higher seniority.
It's a local agreement but the guidelines are it could/should be volunteers and reserves..
Working in nearby offices – Areas will identify and agree with the CWU
locally a approach (which could include the use of volunteers and
reserves) to working in nearby offices within employees’ contracted
hours which will include travel times and appropriate travel and
subsistence arrangements.
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manager tells me i have to go because of seniority but i have my own duty.
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heywoodwhites wrote:manager tells me i have to go because of seniority but i have my own duty.
Manager's full of s**t,hold tight i'll have a double check at the P&M agrement.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
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cheers mat its always been the case at ours.
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EDIT:Missed Fishtanks post.

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=12462" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
From the 1st download,now it doesn't mention seniority.
Your area should have an agreement,or at least your office should.
Rule of thumb is if someone is spare then they can be sent.

As in all of these agreements interpretation seems a one way st.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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My post invisible POSTMAN? :chuckle

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 63#p355163" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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fishtank wrote:My post invisible POSTMAN? :chuckle

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 63#p355163" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I know,i edited mine. :crazy:
Twas making Tea.
EDIT:Missed Fishtanks post.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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We've never used seniority as part of the criteria in deciding who goes to work in another office. Come to think of it, we've never taken anyone off their own duty either. We only ever send surplus reserves or floaters, and that very rarely happens now :whistle
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And also...
Q: Will I have to work in different units?
A: From time to time, we do ask people to help out in other nearby units and we will continue to do this as and when necessary, but this will be the exception rather than the rule.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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thanks all for the advice just didnt wanna b stiched up, when i have my own duty and some dont.
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heywoodwhites wrote:thanks all for the advice just didnt wanna b stiched up, when i have my own duty and some dont.
The argument a more senior reserve might have is whether you picked the duty you are on or were you allocated it by management.
If it was management then strictly speaking...you don't have your own duty. :nervous
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i picked the duty offered to all staff.