John_B wrote:that Sundays and your day off count towards your total time off sick !!!!
You know ive never really got my head around this
With RM being so bloody anal with the total amout of sick per stage given i can never understand why Sunday (a non service day) is not deducted.
I suppose the way I see it is, you can't suddenly get better on a Sunday and then become ill again on the Monday !!
But if you are ill on a sunday your not costing the firm a days sick money so why add it to your total days sick and possibly trigger a warning ?
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krussel wrote:
But if you are ill on a sunday your not costing the firm a days sick money so why add it to your total days sick and possibly trigger a warning ?
Because SSP and medical certificates cover 7 days.
You have 2 weeks off in reality it's 10 days but get busted for 13 days if you phone in on the sat.
On my shift it's 4 days,so that would/should only be 8.
It's a bummer.
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POSTMAN wrote:You have 2 weeks off in reality it's 10 days but get busted for 13 days if you phone in on the sat.
On my shift it's 4 days,so that would/should only be 8.
It's a bummer.
It really is
What happens if you hit a stage 3 can you claim the Sundays back as a non sick day, i doubt it
The worse thing is it makes no difference to RM if those days are self or doctors sick Many firms do not include Docs sick at all and only monitor self sick days
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John_B wrote:I was off sick about 4 weeks ago now, this has now put my total time off since joining RM (about 7 years now) into question.
I have been called for an interview to review my time off sick with the possibility of receiving a stage 1.
However, I have NEVER had a back to work interview, even though I was signed off by my doctor when I was off the other week.
Can they still put me on a stage 1 even though I have never had a back to work interview ?
You might want to also look into the fact that any disciplinary action should be taken within a reasonable time from the event occuring. I don't consider something that happened 4 weeks ago within a reasonable period. You should push the lack of back to work interview and the fact that they should have issued you a letter regarding your conduct weeks ago, not a month later. It's bad practice.
You might want to also look into the fact that any disciplinary action should be taken within a reasonable time from the event occuring. I don't consider something that happened 4 weeks ago within a reasonable period. You should push the lack of back to work interview and the fact that they should have issued you a letter regarding your conduct weeks ago, not a month later. It's bad practice.
I would just say what the first reply says, you will not be accepting any stage and you will be putting in a grievance against any stage issued due to procedure not being followed by managment. Say that a back to work could have helped you in your recovery because you might have had issues you needed to talk about.
To be honest matem your f****d, if its a stage 1 your getting it, if it was a stage 3 i'd fight it till the bitter end.
I managed to get a stage 2 even though a stage 1 was never issued, both myself and the Rep have asked to see the stage one notes, but so far management have not been able to produce them... this is because they can't. I've been told that being on a stage 2 could go against me if they need to promote part timers to full timers under the revison.
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Lateagainpostie wrote:I managed to get a stage 2 even though a stage 1 was never issued, both myself and the Rep have asked to see the stage one notes, but so far management have not been able to produce them... this is because they can't. I've been told that being on a stage 2 could go against me if they need to promote part timers to full timers under the revison.
This happened to a guy in my office too. A manager falsified the stage one, the postman complained, nothing was done, even the stage wasn't removed. He was also told by his Union rep that it wasn't worth pursuing.
In my last 2 sicknesses, i have not received a back to work interview, the line managers just too lazy/forgetful. If i ever get a stage for these absences i will use this as defence against the stage.
When someone returns to work from absence the line manager must aim as soon as possible to speak privately and out of earshot of others with the person in a non-threatening and supportive way outside formal procedures with the following objectives:
to acknowledge the employee’s return and show it is valued
for the employee to air any concerns
to see if any help is needed and provide direction to encourage regular attendance
to ensure absence is appropriately certified
The first question they ask you in one of these informal discussions is - would you like to tell me about your absence.
One of my colleagues just said no.
I think this should now be everyone's default position when questioned informally by their line manager or DOM.
Would you like to discuss it?
No.
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Would you like to discuss it?
No.
A return to work discussion will take place but employees will not be required to disclose information of a personal or sensitive nature if they choose not to do so.
