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celerycelery wrote:We were told today the whole of the North East revisions are put on hold due to the disasters with the ones that have had them. But RM want to carry out a desk top style revision, whats one of those??
The new idea is self starters (revisions without outside planners).
Back to the old way (and trusted for taking hours out)and not causing mayhem.
Might be some "winners & losers" with duties :whistle
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celerycelery wrote:We were told today the whole of the North East revisions are put on hold due to the disasters with the ones that have had them. But RM want to carry out a desk top style revision, whats one of those??
One of those that does, probably, not include georoute, and more than likely precludes HCTs, LCTs and vans and for which you will be bribed with £200, pro-rata and weight on the shoulder will prevail. So much for months of negotiating and planning ..................of course we know who's to blame.
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We have the vans, the walks planned, the WSM's - and now talk is rife that the P&L revision is a goner and will be replaced with a tabletop revision instead.
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"our DOM pulled us all to the front of the office this morning and explained that an email had been sent to all delivery managers saying all offices that have not gone live would be suspended till further notice due to the whole thing failing."


Just to add fuel to the fire I have heard from a very good source that ALL revisions will be suspended till May :wave :wave

ALL those that havnt already done so ,that is
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DGP1 wrote: I don't think the revisions have been pulled, they've been suspended until they can figure out what's gone wrong (as if we don't already know - no input from the staff)
Our revision had loads of staff input and the proposed walks are actually not bad. We would still fail though (and management know it) because the indoor workload is impossible. 2hrs to complete IPS, prep all walks and tie everything up. At present it takes us 3hrs+ and we already have WSM's.

3hrs + less staff and bigger walks to prep = 2hrs. Only in RM's world :crazy:
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dvbuk55 wrote:
celerycelery wrote:We were told today the whole of the North East revisions are put on hold due to the disasters with the ones that have had them. But RM want to carry out a desk top style revision, whats one of those??
One of those that does, probably, not include georoute, and more than likely precludes HCTs, LCTs and vans and for which you will be bribed with £200, pro-rata and weight on the shoulder will prevail. So much for months of negotiating and planning ..................of course we know who's to blame.

Bang on, basically a TTR means you'll be working in the same way but taking out a longer walk. Weight off the shoulder? Nope.

I can't help thinking though that a TTR will be better for most offices, van sharing and Georoute/IWT are a complete shambles that just don't work. At least a TTR will (SHOULD!) have worker and CWU input. Weight on the shoulder is down to the individual, stick to the bag matrix and it's not a problem.
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Rumour this morning was that RM are close to going bust as a company. Reported on the news somewhere but dunno where.

Should this happen the Govt will sell the assets via an administrators and an alternative private postal service will be formed.

Who knows eh?

Remember the managers briefing staff that RM wouldnt be able to pay wages in February?
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pickaname wrote:Rumour this morning was that RM are close to going bust as a company. Reported on the news somewhere but dunno where.

Should this happen the Govt will sell the assets via an administrators and an alternative private postal service will be formed.

Who knows eh?

Remember the managers briefing staff that RM wouldnt be able to pay wages in February?
RM won't go bust, we are fully owned by the government and so they will have to put up the money to keep us going (serious questions really need to be asked from the board though is RM was to fail, Leighton and Crozier should have to pay back their bonuses).
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In our Office SS area that our table top revision is going ahead and one of our guys has been taken off duty to help out, though last time he and dom had a massive row and he told them to shove it, so we will see what develops, :shhhhh

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Post by robd »

Glenno wrote:
"our DOM pulled us all to the front of the office this morning and explained that an email had been sent to all delivery managers saying all offices that have not gone live would be suspended till further notice due to the whole thing failing."


Just to add fuel to the fire I have heard from a very good source that ALL revisions will be suspended till May :wave :wave

ALL those that havnt already done so ,that is
Yep,here in west yorkshire things have ground to a halt,as managers have been drafted in to the failing revision offices.
and i have it on good authority,that they have been given a 4 month timescale,which ties in with your source,and after the biggest and most intensive agreement ever,yes we're now told it's all about saving hours and a table-top exercise.
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Any word from dingo or lovejoy about this, more and more people seem to be saying their revisions are being put on hold but they seem to be saying that everything is going ahead without delay.
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Ours is still full steam ahead.

Already been told there's not enough work for several FTs when we get the 90 odd percent sequenced mail in.
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Hitcher wrote: :funneh 90 odd percent sequenced mail in. :left:
We were only promised 85%...so we're only about 30% out.
Do not base your revision on false promises....

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pickaname wrote:Rumour this morning was that RM are close to going bust as a company. Reported on the news somewhere but dunno where.

Should this happen the Govt will sell the assets via an administrators and an alternative private postal service will be formed.

Who knows eh?

Remember the managers briefing staff that RM wouldnt be able to pay wages in February?

I heard that too, it is probably just as well the Government is taking on the pension liability.
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Hitcher wrote:Ours is still full steam ahead.

Already been told there's not enough work for several FTs when we get the 90 odd percent sequenced mail in.
You're joking right???....this has been the major problem,revisions have been based on virtually all the letters being sequenced,yet we're lucky to get 20/25%,never been on IPS so long,bizzarely since we started receiving WSM we no longer get any trayed Mech?!!