Who wants cwu??? Not me get out

[dvbuk55]

Yes. There is no requirement in the Employment Relations Act 1999, section 10 that a trade union official who accompanies a worker at a disciplinary or grievance hearing must be from a recognised trade union. The official must simply be either employed by a trade union of which he or she is an official,

Now there's a thought for all those CWU members that feel abandoned by the leadership .
Why not do something positive and join the IWW ,don't think they have ever been accused of being bosses collaborators and i've heard their reps are mustard at hearings

Now there is a thought, cheaper, not top heavy and worker friendly..............without the sycophants and apologists.............aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, utopia.......by comparison

[chrisj]

Excelent points Limey...

The delivery postmen and postwomen were well and truly shafted by the agreement.

I dont agree a lot of people were resentful of those did a lot of d2d and therefore got paid more. Some did not want to do D2D regardless of our much they got paid - some even contracted out their d2ds to those that want it.

Now, we still have a discrepancy in the amount of d2d done - some walks are large and others are just ripe for the new typr pizza and takeways d2d. So what you get some people continue to do a lot more than others and not being paid for their efforts - that is not right.

[BELIAL]

Yes. There is no requirement in the Employment Relations Act 1999, section 10 that a trade union official who accompanies a worker at a disciplinary or grievance hearing must be from a recognised trade union. The official must simply be either employed by a trade union of which he or she is an official,

Now there's a thought for all those CWU members that feel abandoned by the leadership .
Why not do something positive and join the IWW ,don't think they have ever been accused of being bosses collaborators and i've heard their reps are mustard at hearings

Now there is a thought, cheaper, not top heavy and worker friendly..............without the sycophants and apologists.............aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, utopia.......by comparison

My thoughts exactly ,and a lot more effective than sticking your head up your arse and then moaning about your piles

[POSTMAN]

You'll only fecking moan about them after the 1st agreement is signed.

[BELIAL]

You'll only fecking moan about them after the 1st agreement is signed.

That'll be an improvement then

[Bluebird]

X

Useless all the reps are interested in is looking after their own personal interests...Same at the top, arise Sir Billy and Dave MP, corrupt from top to bottom,no better than RM but I will be fecked if I am adding to their coffers!

[AdTheBad]

@ clashcityrocker,

"Yes you lost money, and so did a lot of people but some posties must have made out of it."

Correct, Non delivry staff at delivery offices did well, R.M is doing very very well out of it.
Delivery staff, however, are not.

"Was it fair that postie A was taking home £50/week more than postie B when they were both working the same hours?"

Working the same hours or being paid for the the same hours, Not the same thing. The postie who loads a 600 walk frame with d2d and then delivers them, gets the pay for them, thats the principle of "working". For (example) Me to load and deliver the d2d and you get paid for my work or in this case r.m. gets paid for my work, is not how the concept of how "work" works, is it?
If your "postie B" wants the pay, maybe he/she should do the work.

"With the increase in D2D, that wage discrepancy was only going to increase, so imho the delivery supplement is fairer. You don't get more money if you have more packets or Specials."

I do, because more packets and specials mean more time delivering and therefore more overtime, just like my d2d now contribute to overtime.

"D2D is now counted in measured workload."
This may have been agreed but ity sure as hell aint happening, Obviously you either have not been paying attention or you have never been on deliveries.


This was a CWU goal for ages. Although you and me may be worse off financially, moving D2D into workload is better for everyone."

I doubt that YOU are worse off finacially and moving d2d into deliveries is better for a) r.m profits and b) those who never had anything to do with them anyway.

Delivery workers got screwed over and you know it.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

X

Useless all the reps are interested in is looking after their own personal interests...Same at the top, arise Sir Billy and Dave MP, corrupt from top to bottom,no better than RM but I will be fecked if I am adding to their coffers!

Blimey do you have any more pointless sweeping statements or boxes to put people into. If you had said the same thing about a religion or ethnic group your statement would be racist, but I guess because its about a Trade Union thats ok.

Well I am afraid I take people at face value, and I certainly don't think all reps are saints or that they are corrupt, some may well be, but to condem all reps because you had problems or because (like me) you feel let down by the top table, is at bit to much like the Daily Mail for me.

[lions]

union waste of time,X came out of the union because they have not done me any good because a certain union official who i worked with made be become depressed so i lost my job because of him, he only has own interest at heart plus s/a, also the late shift manager loves him because he is so thick as s*** that he gets want he wants and .... the union official has done a good job. stuff the union.

[post_bitch]

[clashcityrocker]

Is she singing - "total eclipse of the heart?"

[militant rowney]

was one of the first postmen back the other day at gone 3 o clock thanks geo-routes, only to catch our union rep giving our office manager a back massage! hard to tell the difference between the two at the best of times. Fair play to royal mail at least they shaft you from the front, c w u much prefers to shaft you from behind. Time for a new union c w u hated and loathed in my office they sold delivery down the river with the help of the indoor mail centres turncoat scumbags...

[BELIAL]

was one of the first postmen back the other day at gone 3 o clock thanks geo-routes, only to catch our union rep giving our office manager a back massage! hard to tell the difference between the two at the best of times. Fair play to royal mail at least they shaft you from the front, c w u much prefers to shaft you from behind. Time for a new union c w u hated and loathed in my office they sold delivery down the river with the help of the indoor mail centres turncoat scumbags...

Easy one ,if your rep is that bad get rid of him and vote in a better one . You could try the same with your DOM ,but it don't work like that

[fishtank]

Easy one ,if your rep is that bad get rid of him and vote in a better one . You could try the same with your DOM ,but it don't work like that

About 10 years ago we had a 100% "vote of no confidence" in a line manager...that worked.
Off you pop son....

[BELIAL]

Easy one ,if your rep is that bad get rid of him and vote in a better one . You could try the same with your DOM ,but it don't work like that

About 10 years ago we had a 100% "vote of no confidence" in a line manager...that worked.
Off you pop son....

How do you go about arranging a no confidence vote in management ? Is there a set procedure ? What are the guidelines and timetable ? I'm sure there would be massive uptake of this procedure if folks were aware of it