Who wants cwu??? Not me get out

[fishtank]

So why do inside staff get the payment ?

...because it should have been called a delivery office supplement.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Nobody gets paid for D2ds anymore! IT'S A DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT! Nothing to do with d2ds!

So why do inside staff get the payment ?

Have you not answered your own question there - if it was for D2Ds indoor staff would not get the functional supplement, but they do.

[POSTMAN]

The idea in time is to get the DS into basic pay,what you could have is opg's in the same office with different basic pay if it was seperated.

Why it was not put into basic pay straight away is beyond me.

[post_bitch]

bcos they wanted the indoor staffs vote!

[TrueBlueTerrier]

bcos they wanted the indoor staffs vote!

Sorry don't believe that old chestnut for many reasons.

1. Not enough Distrubution workers to swamp the Delieries ones - Deliveries outnumber everyone else in the Union.
2. MC and all the other get a smaller supplememt.
3. Most of the MCs had to give up other supplements and bonus entitlements to get it.

We were let down by Yes voters in deliveries and more importantly by those that did not vote (of course not including those that could not for various reasons)

[gman]

bcos they wanted the indoor staffs vote!

1 million percent true

[dvbuk55]

The CWU no longer represents the wishes and aspirations of the membership. They did not hold true to treating part time and full time staff the same. They did not use the strike effectively to better the terms and conditions of the membership. They fully accepted the workplan put forward by Royal Mail IN FULL, supported wholeheartedly by "those in the know" and misled the membership into believing the rewards were better than they were . The "bonuses" represent monies already earned and due, the pay rises are absolutely risible under the increases in VAT and cost of living rises we now have and can expect more of the same at a time when earnings, in real terms, are falling.

The pay and pension of those at the helm of the CWU will not suffer one iota and the leadership will be the same with more of the same and the apologists hanging on to their coat tails for all they are worth. Make no bones about it, the CWU is a business and despite popular myth the membership are NOT the union, they are merely the vehicle that allows it to survive.

[post_bitch]

£160 a year?

that pays my internet for the year

[gazzariah]

Sounds like the old rogue cwu reps have been at it again.in your place gone
Give them full time release and they will do anything for management
As long as it doesnt involve working.
two year suspendeds are getting dished out by the bucket load in our place,to people doing the job right.
Where would you get it??

SAME IN OUR OFFICE THR IDIOTS NEVER SEEM TO LEARN.

[Danelectro]

The CWU no longer represents the wishes and aspirations of the membership. They did not hold true to treating part time and full time staff the same. They did not use the strike effectively to better the terms and conditions of the membership. They fully accepted the workplan put forward by Royal Mail IN FULL, supported wholeheartedly by "those in the know" and misled the membership into believing the rewards were better than they were . The "bonuses" represent monies already earned and due, the pay rises are absolutely risible under the increases in VAT and cost of living rises we now have and can expect more of the same at a time when earnings, in real terms, are falling.

The pay and pension of those at the helm of the CWU will not suffer one iota and the leadership will be the same with more of the same and the apologists hanging on to their coat tails for all they are worth. Make no bones about it, the CWU is a business and despite popular myth the membership are NOT the union, they are merely the vehicle that allows it to survive.

Cracking post dvbuk55,i hope you dont mind but ill probably use it word for word at my branch AGM.

The only thing i dont get is, if the CWU is a business then its a business going bust,what are the gravy train brigade gonna
do when theres nothing left in the kitty?

[fishtank]

The only thing i dont get is, if the CWU is a business then its a business going bust,what are the gravy train brigade gonna do when theres nothing left in the kitty?

[dvbuk55]

What a frightening propect that must be for the membership ft, think how much the last one cost, despite the promises of savings Bit like the savings on salaries and pensions within the union................I think someone mentioned it would be discussed at this years AGM, there we go chattering away again........ Crikey it's an expensive exercise chattering

[brothermagrew]

Slightly off topic apologies, but i never knew until now that:

Where an employer recognises one union can a worker ask to be accompanied by an official of another union at a disciplinary or grievance hearing?

Yes. There is no requirement in the Employment Relations Act 1999, section 10 that a trade union official who accompanies a worker at a disciplinary or grievance hearing must be from a recognised trade union. The official must simply be either employed by a trade union of which he or she is an official, or a lay official of a trade union whom the union has reasonably certified in writing as having experience of, or as having received training in, acting as a worker's companion at disciplinary or grievance hearings. Certification may take the form of a card or letter. If the worker is a member of a non-recognised trade union, the worker may therefore ask to be accompanied by a trade union official from that trade union. Indeed, there is no requirement in the legislation for the worker to be a member of the trade union at all to be accompanied by a trade union official, although in practice trade unions rarely support workers who are not their members.

[Midnight+13]

I lost over a £1000 a year thanks to our brilliant union. Well done boys! Screw over the people you should be looking after. As for the it's fairer for everyone brigade, the only person I can now afford to look out to is me.

[BELIAL]

Yes. There is no requirement in the Employment Relations Act 1999, section 10 that a trade union official who accompanies a worker at a disciplinary or grievance hearing must be from a recognised trade union. The official must simply be either employed by a trade union of which he or she is an official,

Now there's a thought for all those CWU members that feel abandoned by the leadership .
Why not do something positive and join the IWW ,don't think they have ever been accused of being bosses collaborators and i've heard their reps are mustard at hearings