ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

later saturdays

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
guvenor
Posts: 493
Joined: 20 Dec 2007, 16:58

Re: later saturdays

Post by guvenor »

POSTMAN wrote:
guvenor wrote:
dingo wrote:It will depend when your second wave of sequence mail arrives and is up for negotiation. In additon the agreement states that the vast majoirity will be finished by 2:30 , most by 2 . Royal Mail during the talks with the union stated that 92% of staff will be finished before 1430.

Plus you are entitiled to the new attendance patterns which will give you less Saturdays.
were not entitled to more sats off it was a con. pt in our office voted against sats to suit own needs they all think their being made ft :left:
they also split the ft vote down the middle with long or short deliveries and are going to put this in regardless
we have to remain on 1 in 6 sats off with longer deliveries on later starts in cdvs with said ptrs
well done cwu and acas you have done ayrshire proud round of applause.
so you can quote all you want dingo, give me the ammo to fight this
You should have a number of options to vote on if you are going through a revision.This would be down to you lot getting your heads together.
Then those options get voted on by the CWU members in your office.

RM don't tell you what you are having,the figures and you lot working your bollox off with them do.
we had lots of options mgmnt dont want to accomodate them they dont know how to i kid you not they havn,t a clue
they only see longer deliveries end off
oh, and they don,t want to upset ptrs
we asked for all options to be presented to us mgmnt offered us 3 options of which 2 options would have been no benefit to ft working and the option preferred lost ft jobs ;liar according to mgmt.
i thought methods were to be put in place regardless of how many jobs hrs etc it had to be workable to the individual
mail now failing daily trays being left at frames once again
before we move to revision which will be total chaos with no support from disilussioned and overworked posties
Phantom
Posts: 1234
Joined: 27 Dec 2007, 18:17
Gender: Female
Location: New York

Re: later saturdays

Post by Phantom »

Well since all these changes have been imposed on us i've never cut off as much. A longer saturday will mean some week days will be shorter and a cut off will ensure!
CUT OFF!!!
martinapsid
Posts: 109
Joined: 08 Mar 2010, 09:04
Gender: Male

Re: later saturdays

Post by martinapsid »

we work in my office 3 weeks on 1 week off 3 weeks at 8 hours 50 minutes aday which gives you a 39 hour week off so far so good now the question that's been asked is if you are on a 39 hour week should your work be 8 hours 40 minutes to give you a base 39 hour week plus your 50 minutes to give your week off if you should be on 4x39 = 156 hours when you work 8h 50m a day thats 53 hours a week x 3 =159 hors this gives you 3x40 weeks and one 39 hour week i think !!!!!!!
Phantom
Posts: 1234
Joined: 27 Dec 2007, 18:17
Gender: Female
Location: New York

Re: later saturdays

Post by Phantom »

martinapsid wrote:we work in my office 3 weeks on 1 week off 3 weeks at 8 hours 50 minutes aday which gives you a 39 hour week off so far so good now the question that's been asked is if you are on a 39 hour week should your work be 8 hours 40 minutes to give you a base 39 hour week plus your 50 minutes to give your week off if you should be on 4x39 = 156 hours when you work 8h 50m a day thats 53 hours a week x 3 =159 hors this gives you 3x40 weeks and one 39 hour week i think !!!!!!!
Dunno m8 not had the experience of working a week longer for several weeks and having a week off. My office prefers a day off in the week, they sound like long days to me anyhow. But under these new revisions and a 39 hour week, based on working 5 days across 6 with a day off etc. and minus meal relief then we will only be working a 7h 40m day, silly doms will have to be very careful at my office if they decide to increase a wednesday, thursday or friday as it won't leave much time left on the remaining days. A smell lots of cutting off around the corner!!!
CUT OFF!!!
fishtank
Posts: 19732
Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
Gender: Male

Re: later saturdays

Post by fishtank »

martinapsid wrote:we work in my office 3 weeks on 1 week off 3 weeks at 8 hours 50 minutes aday which gives you a 39 hour week off so far so good now the question that's been asked is if you are on a 39 hour week should your work be 8 hours 40 minutes to give you a base 39 hour week plus your 50 minutes to give your week off if you should be on 4x39 = 156 hours when you work 8h 50m a day thats 53 hours a week x 3 =159 hors this gives you 3x40 weeks and one 39 hour week i think !!!!!!!
Your hours for the 4 weeks including your rest week should total 156....4x39.
If the hours are spread evenly over your 18 working days in your 4 week rotation you should be working 8hrs 40mins per day.....you are being conned.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
martinapsid
Posts: 109
Joined: 08 Mar 2010, 09:04
Gender: Male

Re: later saturdays

Post by martinapsid »

hi fishtank thought so what a surprise how this one Friday and Saturday week before xames we where sent home because of snow dom said it was no safe but on Monday had relief dom and we the staff got sorted with him and got a delivery done of sorts pkts and parcels where up 200%=300% this xames we walked long hours to catch with some areas not having mail for 2-3 days then our turns up and says there be no over time has we had been sent home and owed hours a quick phone call to union to put the dom right about the o/t dom now says if we are sent home again we will get a choice of staying in office or going home and owning the hours back
Bongos
Posts: 77
Joined: 08 Jan 2011, 11:49
Gender: Male

Re: later saturdays

Post by Bongos »

This is getting silly please lets go back to how it was 10 years ago we had a canteen everyone joined in Sponsered walks we had a pool table in our canteen and i could go on and on.We have no chance of this (All because Customers come 3rd after Managers Bounues and Profits) I would like to Retire from work now but i have 4.5 years to go before 60 i don't think my body could go on in this job after 60 thats if Royal Don't kill me off 1st. Hernia op, Knee op, Hip replacement with other hip on the way out :Sick :Sick :Sick what will happen to me next :nana :nana :nana :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
belle smith
Posts: 1557
Joined: 26 Aug 2008, 17:41
Gender: Male
Location: scotland

Re: later saturdays

Post by belle smith »

guvenor wrote:
dingo wrote:It will depend when your second wave of sequence mail arrives and is up for negotiation. In additon the agreement states that the vast majoirity will be finished by 2:30 , most by 2 . Royal Mail during the talks with the union stated that 92% of staff will be finished before 1430.

Plus you are entitiled to the new attendance patterns which will give you less Saturdays.
were not entitled to more sats off it was a con. pt in our office voted against sats to suit own needs they all think their being made ft :left:
they also split the ft vote down the middle with long or short deliveries and are going to put this in regardless
we have to remain on 1 in 6 sats off with longer deliveries on later starts in cdvs with said ptrs
well done cwu and acas you have done ayrshire proud round of applause.
so you can quote all you want dingo, give me the ammo to fight this
The agreement is not ambiguous about this. You are entiteld to 1 in 4 saturdays off if they say no, go to disagreement!!!

We've had a WSM revision we voted for 1 in 2 for the f/t with p/t working every sat. in the end up we got 1 in 4 for everyone.
but you ARE DEFFANETLY ENTITELD TO 1 IN 4!!!
DirtyHarry
Posts: 5051
Joined: 13 May 2007, 23:16
Gender: Male
Location: London

Re: later saturdays

Post by DirtyHarry »

belle smith wrote:
guvenor wrote:
dingo wrote:It will depend when your second wave of sequence mail arrives and is up for negotiation. In additon the agreement states that the vast majoirity will be finished by 2:30 , most by 2 . Royal Mail during the talks with the union stated that 92% of staff will be finished before 1430.

Plus you are entitiled to the new attendance patterns which will give you less Saturdays.
were not entitled to more sats off it was a con. pt in our office voted against sats to suit own needs they all think their being made ft :left:
they also split the ft vote down the middle with long or short deliveries and are going to put this in regardless
we have to remain on 1 in 6 sats off with longer deliveries on later starts in cdvs with said ptrs
well done cwu and acas you have done ayrshire proud round of applause.
so you can quote all you want dingo, give me the ammo to fight this
The agreement is not ambiguous about this. You are entiteld to 1 in 4 saturdays off if they say no, go to disagreement!!!

We've had a WSM revision we voted for 1 in 2 for the f/t with p/t working every sat. in the end up we got 1 in 4 for everyone.
but you ARE DEFFANETLY ENTITELD TO 1 IN 4!!!
1 in 4 Sats off, means 3 in 4 absolute nightmares. You're not better off, you're worse off. You just cannot beat a decent finishing time EVERY Saturday, as is currently the case. :cuppa
DirtyHarry
Posts: 5051
Joined: 13 May 2007, 23:16
Gender: Male
Location: London

Re: later saturdays

Post by DirtyHarry »

Actually, I'm wrong.

You can beat having an early finish EVERY Saturday, NOT working ANY Saturday would be an excellent result. :Very Happy
realmichael
Posts: 151
Joined: 21 Feb 2010, 13:11
Gender: Male
Location: between a rock and a hard place

Re: later saturdays

Post by realmichael »

DirtyHarry wrote:Actually, I'm wrong.

You can beat having an early finish EVERY Saturday, NOT working ANY Saturday would be an excellent result. :Very Happy
not for the thousands that would have to be paid off it would'ent :cuppa
"Workers of the world unite; you have nothing to lose but your chains."
"Without doubt, machinery has greatly increased the number of well-to-do idlers."
"An ounce of action is worth a ton of theory"
andy2007
Posts: 3971
Joined: 14 Sep 2007, 10:16
Gender: Male
Location: Earth

Re: later saturdays

Post by andy2007 »

Or the Public, who wouldn't even have 1 day of the week, when they'd be able to be in to recieve a parcel/signed for. Or those in the "room of doom", who'd have even more irate people coming in. :hmmmm
Don't knock Insanity
it's just another outlook on Reality!
Lounge Lizard
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 9458
Joined: 06 Aug 2007, 21:54

Re: later saturdays

Post by Lounge Lizard »

3.40pm finish yesterday. :sad:
guvenor
Posts: 493
Joined: 20 Dec 2007, 16:58

Re: later saturdays

Post by guvenor »

3.40 finish is that before or after revision
Cedar_Room
Posts: 826
Joined: 31 Aug 2007, 14:09

Re: later saturdays

Post by Cedar_Room »

We haven't had our revision (yet) so im still finishing at a decent hour but was over at my mums yesterday before going to the football & saw Posties out & about in vans & on foot @ 2.45.

2.45 on a Saturday afternoon,it's just f****** wrong. :evil/mad
“Shorts,in this weather?!”

“If they’re bills I don’t want ‘em!”

“What’s she been ordering now?”